Tyres - Ok those not interested need not read

where do you take them Basil?

If the Jack never leaves the tarmac well and good, but then again...

Which Cooper product do you have? Pale, Sparkling Red or Brown?

What is it about your tyres that hasn't worked for you in the past? Mileage? Chipping? High speed performance? Sand?

Help us out, if you want some help.

Mate...you only get what you pay for....beware

Yep re the above - you haven't said enough ! Where do you go ? Are you happy to pay more for reliability or happy with a gamble at lower cost ? Are you conservative in your driving habits or maybe 'let loose' at times ? $99 sounds like you are buying mower parts - not for cars - are these tyres made in Khazakstan ?

Yep re the above - you haven't said enough ! Where do you go ? Are you happy to pay more for reliability or happy with a gamble at lower cost ? Are you conservative in your driving habits or maybe 'let loose' at times ? $99 sounds like you are buying mower parts - not for cars - are these tyres made in Khazakstan ? Last time I saw those tyres, there was a warning not to exceed 24 psi ! (ok - I made that bit up :-o)

These new ones may be cheap but will they help you in the wet, in an emergency stop? Will the sidewall collapse or puncture easily? Go talk to a few professional drivers from truckies, prof 4wd drivers, racing drivers etc etc. I think they will all say the same thing. You only get what you pay for. I would not put them on my car or 4wd even if you gave them to me simply based on the fact they are so cheap (in price, quality, reputation, service and back up, warranty etc etc) BUT then again I have Coopers and I have had nothing but pleasure and security from them. Thats even with a warranty claim through Coopers for a faulty tyre that caused me a near serious accident. But that could have happened on any tyre as a fault and I don't think I would have got the prompt back up service as I did from Coopers.

There is 2 problems with your Coopers tyres as I see it.

1 - Coopers tyres are like politics and cars. You either vote labour or liberal; like holden or ford. No one will change your mind unless you want it changed. And if someone tells you the Coopers are hopeless, I wonder if they have ever owned a set - the right set.

2 - Have you got the right set of Coopers for your vehicle and for the driving you do, on the surfaces you drive, in the weather conditions you drive in, for the style of driving you do etc etc. Chances are if you are having a bad experience with them you haven't. I would strongly recommend that if the dealer you bought them off in your opinion isn't a horses a#$e, go to a better one. Find the right dealer who will match the tyre to you and your car etc.

They haven't been in business this long selling crap. I think we would easily find another major tyre brand where we could be having the same conversation. It all depends on all of the above (and more). If the Coopers aren't for you, buy something else, but buy a reputable well know brand. Something that you know shouldn't kill you or your family and friends. Good Luck...

Coopers, lets think. I replaced the original, Bridgestones I think at 60,000 with Cooper AT. I replaced these at 130,000 but still have 2 of those running around on the VAn and the other 2 on the spare rims which come on trips with me in case of tyre failure. Then I replaced the 2nd set of AT's at 215000, and 2 of those are in the shed ready for the van when the 1st set wear out, with ST and although a bit noisier, actually track better. They have only done about 10,000. I have had one puncture with the AT's (nail through the tyre) so I have had a pretty good run. I would probably getter better kilometreage if I rotated them more often! Keep the air pressure right, learn about tyre placement and think about when to replace them.
It is better to look at a tyre before a long trip and decide to replace them before the trip than when you get back. Thats why my shed looks like a tyre yard!
I have looked at other brands and they are all good and about the same price so why would I change if I have had a good run.

Triangle tyres I think are made in India?
Maybe China?
Did look at a pair a year or so ago, but didn't getany, got some Simex instead ($20.00 a tyre more at $150.00 ea for 235/85 16 10 ply) since as every one on here says, watch out, be careful, they can't be any good.
Friend bought 4 for his pajero, mainly used around SE Qld, but since moved to Tasmania. Got at least 50,000k from them, quite happy with them. Gone for another set.
So what will you be using the tyres for?

Some people swear by Hercules too.

Know what you mean about Coopers, been through 2 sets of ATs. Under 50,000k a set, had the first set replaced under the milage warranty pro-rata. Cut my losses on the 2nd set and wentfor a different brand. Chipped pretty well on development roads too.
Havn't gone back to them. Maybe they are better now?

Have 10 rims for 3 axles now (CT as well), so run the cheap and low tyres around town and locally, and the better tyres on trips.

I find the whole discussion about Coopers to be very intersting and sometimes frustrating. I have rotated my Coopers with the original Dunlops (Coopers in the bush and Dunlops in the City) and while I am not sure of the exact kms done on each set I figure about 80k to 90k on the Coopers and I estimate about 10k to 15k left

I have been to many places - CSR - Holland Track - Simpson - GRR - Cape York etc - sure some chipping - argued with Coopers Agent and managed to have one replaced free - I have had one puncture - last trip on GRR stripped the tread off one at about 100k not far from Derby while towing a camper
Most times I have rotated frequently - maintained air pressure according to conditions
Am I happy with Coopers? Yes
Am I happy with the agent I purchased them from? No
Would I buy again? Not sure

Fawlty, I would have to agree with your comment on the Doopers, I cant comment on the Dunlops you mentioned, seems a bit on the cheap side for me but then again I was doing a trip away and had just purchased the Mitsi with Mags. I didn't want to use mags in the outback so had a set if sunnys in the shed and I went to the local Beauy's which is run by a mate. I said because of finances I wanted a cheap set of AT style tyres to use for the trip away. He said to me to try some SAVA's that they had just got in.... $155 each.

I expected them to grip well because of the pattern, what I didn't expect was the puncture proofing they displayed and the fact that after 40,000 k's I have now fitted my favourite tyres Wrangler MTR's but the Sava's are still in good nick and have been put on the camper. So I'm the last to tell you that the Dunlops may not be worth there money.....

For cruising around town and down the shops then the cheaper tyres may be ok. But as mentioned above how well would they handle or stop in an emergency?

What if a child stepped in front of your big heavy fourby and you had to brake and turn quickly in the wet?

Going bush then they're unlikely to be touhg enough.

Bridgestone desert duellers were on my fourby when i bought it, got 2 punctures on first trip off bitumen! Inside the carcass were repairs of at least 3 punctures for each tyre!

Whereas i prefer the cooper ST i won't get them again as they still aren't tough enough once you enage low range or get into tough stuff.

Have you looked at a decent quality goodyear or bridgestone? You don't have to go for coopers again.

Barnesy

My main complaint about the Cooper discoverer's is their performance in the wet. Have been in some decidely unnerving situations loosing traction in the wet towing the Gin Palace. So I guess I'm saying that the Coopers in an emegency stop may not perform as one may expect, especially if it is wet....
I rarely go far off road, maybe some gravel roads usually just use the Jack to tow with and I'm a WOOF so I drive at or around the speed limit, don't do much street racing with the 3ltr T/ Diesel....
These are chinese - just check your tyres and see where they are made, you may be surprised.
Now the Gin Palace fully loaded weighs in at around the 2400kg mark has tyres that have done the same KM as the Coopers roughly and has elcheapo LT tyres that are not half worn....
The LT tyresrun a much higher pressure (60psi) and have an 8 ply construction....
Do I assume that the Jury is still out and I have to buy a set and report back???

I have BF Goodrich All Terrain T/A's fitted my GU Patrol ute - went for the slightly bigger LT 285/75 RT 16's on advice from our local dealer due to load carrying considerations as we have a Supreme Sunray slide on camper on board. We have now done two major trips (19,000 km and 14,000 km) in harsh bush country - last year we did Perth to Birdsville via Great Central Rd, Birdsville track and home via Strezlecki track then this year we did Perth to Perth across the top - did most of the Savannah Way and lots of black top as well. These tyres have now done approx 50,000 km and I reckon I'll get another 25 - 30,000km out of them. Have not had a flat or puncture yet and would not consider anything else for serious offroad stuff. Not cheap but as they say "you get what you pay for". These are made in USA and they have the best consumer protection laws going.

Old Mal