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Submitted: Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 18:25
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wolfpack
Hi guys, i have never towed even a small traylor and as i am looking to buy a caravan ( due to better layout than a coaster) i,m pretty nervous. am going to have towing lessons but am wondering if anyone out there can tell me of any problems they may have experienced towing up and down steep hills, windy roads etc. would very much appreciate any feedback. cheers. shadow.
Reply By: Member - Mark H (VIC) - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 18:38
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 18:38
Towing lessons and/or an accredited course would be a great idea if you have never towed anything. They will go through things like hills, windy conditions, van sways, weight distribution, trailer connections, braking etc , which would take a lot to write on here in detail. When armed with that knowledge you can get some practice under your belt with a lot more confidence.
Mark.
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Follow Up By: wolfpack - Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 13:25
Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 13:25
Hi, just wanted to say i really like your profile line. expectation is the only thing in life which causes pain. of course hope, trust, faith are different and not expectations placed on others are they. sometimes we expect gift A and then don,t get to enjoy gift B when it comes. cheers. Shadow.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark H (VIC) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:08
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:08
Hi Shadow,
yep it's hard not to expect things sometimes, and you realise some people just have no idea and can't see outside themselves. Yet sometimes one comes at you that you didn't see coming and you appreciate that all the more.
Mark.
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Follow Up By: wolfpack - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:06
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 18:06
Ah! yes,
well the more we seek outside ourselves the more we actually see ourselves and for some thats a bit scary so they stay in a box where they feel safer. cheers shadow.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 18:41
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 18:41
Intended tow vehicle details ?
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Follow Up By: wolfpack - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:36
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:36
Hi Darian, don,t know vehicle as yet but there,s 3 of us, all women and we need a 20ft van. will have to check what we need to tow that length. just want to know if general opinion is that towing a van is safe. i never drive over 90kms anyway as i don,t believe speed limits ever needed to go any higher. all feed back great. funny how most think i,m a male, i guess i should have said eh!. if you ever come across a caravanner wearing feathers in her hair, thats me so come and say g,day. cheers Shadow
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Follow Up By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 07:42
Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 07:42
I've been towing for years but not vans yet - that will happen soon. My research suggests your 20' van will probably be 1900kg Tare - the industry suggests allowing 400kg extra for all your goodies - maybe 500kg for 3 women :-o)...........That weight puts you right on the towing limit for a lot of medium sized utes and wagons. My preferred plan (now in place) is to get something that tows 3500kg and to have plenty of 'margin' (Landcruiser 100). Also, some vehicles with the towing capacity don't have much power to spare - suggest the kilowatts in your vehicle choice should get due attention. A caravan towing instruction course is a good idea for anyone - I'll be looking into it for sure - under normal road conditions vanning looks easy - its what we are all going to do when things go pear shaped that really matters.
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Reply By: Member - Wayne B (QLD) - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 19:29
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 19:29
go electric brakes and then it is pretty simple, once upon a time you could go down to a shopping centre car
park and practise but all weekend trading kind of kills it but find a place and practise practise, my wife and I use a radio we still rant and rave and provide entertainment to all but over time you improve, just chill out and if you ever stay at a
park that offers the marriage saver, they
park it grab it as a saviour.
Cheers
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Reply By: PradOz - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 20:47
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 20:47
Dont be nervous, if you are nervous you may panic. I actually enjoy towing and look forward to the reversing bit. Not sure why. Maybe I like to challenge myself.
Dont tow too fast. Better fuel economy and you may just arrive alive.
Dont make it more compilcated than it need be. Just remember what works and do it and remember what doesnt and obviously dont do it.
The idea of the CB radios is a good one. Beats yelling at your wife, her yelling back, you then misunderstanding her and then BANG and you know what is going to happen next.... A caravn can be small place to hide if you are fighting (and the whole
park gets to hear it so you are then in even more s#1t with the missus.
If someone wants to overtake you dont slow down as they already know what speed your doing.
If the car parks arent vacant for practice, look for a new suburb that is under construction and go out there on Sundays when they are off. You will find somewhere.
And dont worry. You are about to have the best experiences of your life. You are buying a van to have fun. Just learn from your experiences. And you will get plenty of advice along the way from fellow travellers as we all think we know everything about towing, and packing and driving and the best holiday spot and fishing and
camping and BBQing and and and...... GOOD LUCK :)
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Follow Up By: wolfpack - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:39
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:39
Hi, yeah i like a challenge too, thats why i was born a woman, ha ha. all great advice. thanks. cheers Shadow.
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Reply By: Max - Sydney - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:01
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:01
Wolfpack
All the above advice is good - and your intention to do a course is smart and necessary. One other - don't buy a van any bigger than you really need - less effort to tow, pay for the fuel and
park.
The course will deal with the essentials and cover the worry things like trucks passing, backing, good loading and weight distribution hitches etc.
Then get out in the vacant area and practise like mad. Even before you get the van, try to borrow a trailer (bigger the better) and practise backing, cornering etc etc. so you have a bit of an idea before you hook on the van and go to the course. But don't do as I did 35 years ago and get too confident with the trailer and jackknife it. Cost me a new tail light lens!
Until you are A1 expert, always have your missus out the back of the van but visible to you to stop you backing into a tree!
Enjoy the wonderful world of caravaning.
Max
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Follow Up By: wolfpack - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:45
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 21:45
Hi, the world of travel is in our blood, (
mine and my daughters) as we are Romany (Gypsy) by blood and find no matter how hard we try we just don,t fit into the world of houses hence needing a bit larger van as this will be a permanent lifestyle. we will be as turtles with our home on our backs. hope to see you on the drom (road). All are
well come at our fire. cheers Shadow
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Follow Up By: Max - Sydney - Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 22:05
Saturday, Oct 20, 2007 at 22:05
Hey Shadow
From a very
young age I got a shiver down the spine every time I saw a long distance bus or the
Melbourne Express pull out from
Adelaide - and I am stock Anglo Celtic. Every time we get on the road on a trip short or long I feel great. I can imagine the pull of the road you must feel with your
heritage.
I hope I do meet up with you at a distant
camp site one day.
All the best in setting up with the van.
Max
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Follow Up By: wolfpack - Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 13:28
Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 13:28
you will know us because we will have the Romany flag painted on our van with Romany Rebels written under it. cheers shadow.
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 06:18
Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 06:18
Wolfpack,
From what you have said I would suggest that you go and hire a caravan before buying. If you feel comfortable after a trial then you can buy with confidence, if you feeled stressed when towing and manoeuvring then you haven't wasted your money. A motorhome which is not articulated like a car/caravan is much easier to manage.
cheers
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Reply By: Steve - Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 11:35
Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 11:35
I suggest you invite me along and I'll show you what's what ;-)
Somewhere nice and quiet would be nice.
Well, you never know ;-)
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Follow Up By: wolfpack - Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 13:21
Sunday, Oct 21, 2007 at 13:21
yeah,
well wouldn,t be too quiet with us there as we,re muso,s and dancers. cause have to consider others and the nature beings. ;-) back at yah! and no you never do know.
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