HF Radios
Submitted: Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 20:54
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T.D.
Can anybody out there tell me wether a land based
HF radio can be also used on board a Yacht. I want to buy a
HF Radio for the trip outback and then use it on board for cruising.
Is this possible.
TD
Reply By: Member - George (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:11
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:11
There is no problem with using a
HF radio either land or sea. However, when using it at sea you will need different frequencies. I know that Barratt Communication can install either a land based or marine frequency package, or both, at fairly minimal cost. Hope that helps
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - George (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:11
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:11
There is no problem with using a
HF radio either land or sea. However, when using it at sea you will need different frequencies. I know that Barratt Communication can install either a land based or marine frequency package, or both, at fairly minimal cost. Hope that helps
Cheers
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Reply By: Member - George (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:11
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:11
There is no problem with using a
HF radio either land or sea. However, when using it at sea you will need different frequencies. I know that Barratt Communication can install either a land based or marine frequency package, or both, at fairly minimal cost. Hope that helps
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - George (WA) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:12
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:12
Ooops, don't know what happened here
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Follow Up By: Muddy doe (SA) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 22:50
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 22:50
seems to be a lot of that stutter happening lately!
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 00:17
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 00:17
Sure has, been wondering if there is an issue with the site causing the stutter??
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Reply By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:12
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:12
TD
It will work ok the problem will be the IP rating as in corosion of the unit. I would think, there is no need to make a land based unit to handle salt
water, it's just an added cost..
Richard
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:14
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:14
Boy I must be a slow typer as no one had replied now bang Three replies ...LOL
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:18
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:18
Er........ far as I have experienced, the comms on HF usually work at lot better over
water - they bounce off the
water and 'hop' further usually - re the frequencies used - I figure you only need different frequencies if you need different frequencies - the various clubs and networks can service land, see and air with their allotted frequencies. I'm a base operator for VKS737 (maybe not much longer though) and staff like myself have commed with land vehicles, ocean going vessels, light planes and even the odd 747 (the latter using HF at 1000 watts far as I know).
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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 00:16
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 00:16
Darian are you leaving VKS as a base operator?
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:21
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:21
Darian
Did you get my email last night???
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Reply By: V8 Troopie - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:39
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:39
"HF Radio" is not specific enough, do you mean a radio capable of receiving HF frequencies or do you mean a 'transceiver', a radio capable of transmitting and receiving HF marine frequencies?
I do carry a HF all band receiver on my trailer sailer for receiving the relevant marine weather forecasts, it is a Yaesu FRG8800 land based set and is kept as dry as possible and
well out of splash range when aboard. Even so, I only fit it when going on a extended trip, its not aboard for day sailing.
These sets have no extra corrosion protection and would succumb quickly in the salty atmosphere given a chance.
Klaus
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:20
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 08:20
What Trailer Sailer do you have???
Had a Sonata 6, Then Catalina 22...
Crewing on a Sonata 760 Sport at the moment..
Have you done the Marley Point Race???
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:48
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 10:48
Hi Signman
Did Marley point many times in its heyday a decade ago crewing on an RL24 , but its really gone off nowas an event.
Robin Miller
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Follow Up By: V8 Troopie - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 20:33
Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 20:33
Hi Signman, she's a NIS26, home built and launched 9 years ago - still going
well.
Have not done the Marlay, too far away (I'm in
Perth). Actually, have given up TS racing about 8 years ago, cruising is more relaxing at my age.
BTW, I have an amateur Callsign too - VK6AKS - but am not active these days.
Klaus
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Reply By: Footloose - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:49
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 21:49
With the inclusion of the appropriate frequencies, any commercial grade radio can be used. You will need an aerial tuner to match the transceiver with your marine aerial, it can be the same unit you use on land .
More info would help.
Type of transceiver ?
Frequencies installed ?
Aerial when on land and at sea ?
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 22:46
Tuesday, Oct 23, 2007 at 22:46
I think only Codan, Barrett and the Icom IC-f7000 are approved to be used on the VKS network and it may be the same on the other land HF networks.
Depending what marine radio you have may depend on the use.
Regards Richard
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Reply By: T.D. - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 13:03
Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 13:03
Thanks for the replies everyone. We will only be doing four months at sea and only up into the Coral Sea then I hope to put the
HF Radio into my Toyota, I sould not get wet and be temporly mounted in the Nav station and used to communicate with other boats and the nearest weather stations.
Once again
Thanks to all
TD
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 16:37
Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 16:37
Hi TD,
Correct me if i'm wrong, yet you won't be able to communicate with other vessels on the HF marine frequencies unless you have a MROCP or similiar. Also, do all the "land" HF sets have the marine frequencies 2182, 4125, 6216 kHz etc?
My limited understanding is that even the Advanced ameteur licence does not cover these frequecies (see
http://vkham.com/permitte.html#Frequencies_Allowed).....
Something doesn't add up.....you should just check these issues before relying on your HF set in a marine environment. Others may know the answers to these questions.
Andrew
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Reply By: T.D. - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 13:45
Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 13:45
Andrew
Thanks for the info, I went to the 4x4 show yesterday and spoke to the iCom rep and he seems to think the land based unit will work and they can reprograme it after we have finished at sea for minimal cost.
TD
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 14:07
Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 14:07
That's good to know :-)
Andrew
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