Kleenoil bypass filter

Submitted: Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 12:06
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A question to all who have Toyota landcriusers and have fitted this unit to their diesel engine..can you tell me where you connected the inlet and outlet hoses to (did the outlet go into the sump..and how did you do that) and where did you mount the filter unit itself and any other helpful advice.....just recieved the kit, read the instructions and studying the manuals etc but want to run it by you guys before I start.....thanks Phil
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Reply By: Member - Mal B - Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 21:19

Wednesday, Oct 24, 2007 at 21:19
hi phillip will follow your post with interest asked same question some time ago not much help safe driveing mal b
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 09:09

Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 09:09
You usually tee off the oil sender unit for pressure and return it to the sump via a screw in fitting. You could also modify the sucker pump oil feed pipework and put the filter in line there...
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Follow Up By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 22:24

Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 22:24
Thanks .......when I am back at work will head up to the light vehicle bay and get up close and personal while the cruisers are up on hoists and search for the best places to tap into and check fitting sizes etc and get back to you all.......
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 23:40

Thursday, Oct 25, 2007 at 23:40
A word of advice, if I may be so bold.....

As one who has had a very public airing of an oil based indiscretion, may I respectfully suggest that you fit a buzzer to the oil pressure warning light. It saved my bacon by sounding immediately when my aftermarket by-pass filtration system failed back in July, just south of Pimba on the Stuart Hwy.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:45

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 09:45
Hi Roachie... sound advice and thankyou very much....1.do you still have it connected and 2. did you take it off the oil sender point and back into the sump (and you if did, how ?) and 3. were you satisfied with it's performance?.....thanks mate...look forward to your reply...cheers Phil
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:53

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 10:53
G'day Phillip,
Mine is actually a different brand; AMSOIL dual bypass set-up. In fact it is disconnected at the moment due to a persistent oil leak, but that's another story!!! haha

With the AMSOIL unit (have a look at their website if you like, and you'll get a better understanding of what I'm rabbiting-on about)...... you get an adaptor fitting that screws onto the motor where the original filter used to "live". This adaptor is a aluminium casting and has 2 threaded ports which take a "from" and a "to" hose. These 2 hoses lead off to a remote-mounted head unit that contains 2 filters. One filter is a direct replacement for the one you did away with on the motor. The other filter is a BIG sucker....the actual bypass filter.

The oil goes into the remote housing and about 80% of the oil is directed to the smaller, standard filter. The other 20% of the oil goes through the BIG filter and filtered down to 1 micron.

The problem I've been having is getting a good quality seal on the fitting that takes the oil from the cast aluminium adaptor unit (on the motor). I've gotta try and find a perfect way to get a 1/2" hose on there without it weeping oil all the time. In the meantime I've taken the adaptor off and replaced it with a standard filter.

On the subject of the buzzer, I simply stripped a small amount of the insulation off the wire where it comes from the oil pressure switch (using a very sharp scalpel) and then soldered a length of wire to it. That wire goes to the buzzer and the other wire from the buzzer goes to an ignition source. If the red light comes on (including when you start the vehicle), so does the buzzer. As it can be a pain in the @rse to have the buzzer sounding every time you start the engine, I've also installed a momentary contact "OFF" switch. I can push this down while I start the engine and release it once I see the red oil light has gone out.

Cheers

Roachie
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Follow Up By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:19

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:19
Roachie...thanks a million.....I have seen the oil filter adaptors you speak of somewhere.....but right now cannot think where...oh yes I remember...it was a adaptor to fit a standard ryco filter that costs a third of the guenuine toyota filter (it screws on in place of the toyota filter and takes the standard ryco,[ forget what number] but costs about a third of the price).....now if I got that idea/design and got the boys at work to machine me up an adaptor to do the same thing "voila" I can connect the bypass unit with a oil pressure switch and if I fit hydraulic snap fittings as well so that I can remove it if I need to in the field(old mining term)....thanks again mate....cheers Phil...p.s. got to find where I saw that adaptor advertised.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:19

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 12:19
Roachie...thanks a million.....I have seen the oil filter adaptors you speak of somewhere.....but right now cannot think where...oh yes I remember...it was a adaptor to fit a standard ryco filter that costs a third of the guenuine toyota filter (it screws on in place of the toyota filter and takes the standard ryco,[ forget what number] but costs about a third of the price).....now if I got that idea/design and got the boys at work to machine me up an adaptor to do the same thing "voila" I can connect the bypass unit with a oil pressure switch and if I fit hydraulic snap fittings as well so that I can remove it if I need to in the field(old mining term)....thanks again mate....cheers Phil...p.s. got to find where I saw that adaptor advertised.
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 13:47

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 13:47
The Toyota filter is alot more $$ for a good reason....buy and install that adapter at your own risk, yes it may save you $100 in 50,000 kms, but if the motor is not healthy after that, then it was a bad choice...the Toyota filter is a 2 stage filtration unit, which filters oil via a smaller micron paper, and catches the smaller carbon deposits. It also has a larger surface area to allow more service before becoming clogged. There is a writeup on it at www.lcool.org
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Follow Up By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:02

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:02
Dozer...the toyota one always remains..there is no way I will get rid of it.....but the Kleenoil bypass goes with it, so you see the adaptor is important for me to connect the bypass system in parallel to the original one and with the snap fittings I can disconnect it without a fuss.....BUT has anyone seen that ryco adaptor product somewhere???????
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Follow Up By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:09

Friday, Oct 26, 2007 at 23:09
p.s......the idea is to use it as a pattern to act as a spacer having two ports, one in , one out to connect to the bypass system...."necessity the mother of invention"
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Sunday, Oct 28, 2007 at 19:42

Sunday, Oct 28, 2007 at 19:42
Phil
A mate runs the ryco filter on his hdt...the adapter has no ports...however, the old racor oil filter does use an adapter with in and out ports for hoses...
The bottom line is...whether you connect to there or off the pressure port elsewhere, you tap into thesame system, and with the filter, you tap in before the bearings...not that it makes any difference. Pressure works in all directions equally...your bypass filter has a very small orifice so only 1 litre or similar per minute flows through it...
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Follow Up By: Member - DOZER- Sunday, Oct 28, 2007 at 19:46

Sunday, Oct 28, 2007 at 19:46
Lastly...there is no in and out with the adapter...it is pre filter and post filter, both run thesame pressure, so that wont work...you need to out back to sump so flow is permitted through filter...this can be done simply by tapping into the tappet cover...or sump or that line up front for the sucker pump...
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Follow Up By: Member - Phillip S (WA) - Sunday, Oct 28, 2007 at 22:11

Sunday, Oct 28, 2007 at 22:11
Dozer....thanks again for your input mate....I have been at work today and I have photocopied as much as the "shop manual" as I need and got up close and personal with a troopy on the hoist( done a few g/boxes lately pulling trailing cables) and I agree with you.....the output needs to go into the sump.....the next plan is to go to the local turbo place and see if they have/ use a fitting that screws or fits to the sump....I need to know exactly where to put it so that it does not touch or interfere with anything...cheers Phil
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