100% increase in some coastal NSW NPWS Camping Fees

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 18:25
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Has anyone noticed that some NSW coastal NP camping fees have doubled as of 1st Nov.

Thats 100%, how can they justify that ?

I know my wages haven't doubled and last I heard we had a CPI of something like 1.7%.

What do they base these fees on. Is it a case of "we are the government, we dont have to justify increases" or "lets rip those poor hard working bastards off, especially the young couples with young kids"

Would be interested in everyones thoughts.

Will you accept this or will we write to NPWS and complain. I have.
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Reply By: Member - Alan H (Narangba QLD - Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 19:13

Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 19:13
I for one object to fees and tolls.

I hate entrance fees to public land and camp fees and Tolls to private companies so that they can make more profit.

If we can't afford a bridge, road, or tunnel we should go without It is amazing the amount of money government has for elections and promises (us paying too much tax) yet they sell infrastructure to private profit making companies so they they can toll us and we are supposed to think this is in our best interest!!!!.

If the government paid for the infrastructure and had to recover costs by tolls then at least we should only have to pay the cost of the infrastructure and not some great profit margin so that directors can give themselves more.

I actually believe in fee for service but I said FEE for SERVICE. There should be no cost to go to a national park and if I want hot running water then I should pay for it. If I want elaborate interpretation centres then I should pay for it but I should also have the choice of going without and not paying.

Natural features and landscape required no input from national parks and I do not want them to provide anything (except toilets for health reasons where people congregate).

Permits are just as bad as tolls and entrance fees. Unfortunately we are allowing our society to become one of never ending choice for the rich and restriction and cost for the poor.

I'll get off my soap box now.
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Follow Up By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 19:26

Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 19:26
Alan, very well said. Totally agree.
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Follow Up By: hl - Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 20:38

Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 20:38
ditto
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:40

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:40
Hear Hear!!!!
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Reply By: QLD Kev - Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 19:14

Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 19:14
Cruiser,

Which ones have they increased as we will be camping in some of the northern NSW ones in the next few months.

Cheers Kev

PS I agree it is ridiculous that they can do
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Reply By: jdwynn (SA) - Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 19:42

Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 19:42
I haven't looked at costs in NSW, but generally speaking costs not too (~) high across the country e.g. compared to caravan parks, so that's never really been my issue.

My beef has been that services seem non existent in places. If costs go up let's see better (some!) track and park management. Too often tracks that were never managed to achieve some good environmental outcomes, are closed - go figure. So I just hope fees used positively.

JD
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruiser (NSW) - Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 20:02

Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 20:02
I am not sure of all the names but I regularly go to Crowdy Bay, Yuragir and Limeburners NP and they have all increase. I can only assume that most other NP on the coast are in the same boat. You would have to check the site for individual parks.

Here is an extract from NPWS NSW web page for Crowdy Bay NP

Crowdy Bay National Park
Park fees
Vehicle entry fees

If you're driving into the park, you will need to purchase a vehicle day pass. This costs $7. The park has coin-operated 'pay and display' machines - please bring correct coins.

If you're a regular visitor to NSW national parks, you can save on vehicle entry fees by buying an annual pass. Annual passes are available online.



Camping grounds where fees apply

For more information on any of these camping grounds, see the park camping page.


Kylies Beach camping ground (70 sites)

Fees: $10.00 per adult per night, $5.00 per child per night. Minimum site fee of $10. Annual pass or daily vehicle entry fee of $7 also required.

Indian Head camping ground (60 sites)

Fees: $10.00 per adult per night, $5.00 per child per night. Minimum site fee of $10. Annual pass or daily vehicle entry fee of $7 also required.

Diamond Head camping ground (80 sites)

Fees: $10.00 per adult per night, $5.00 per child per night. Minimum site fee of $10. Annual pass or daily vehicle entry fee of $7 also required.

Imagine if you had 2 adults and 2 kids between 5 and 14 and no annual pass, then you are up for $37 per day

Bloody rip off.
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Follow Up By: jdwynn (SA) - Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 20:52

Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 20:52
Gees, I see where you are coming from Cruiser - that's as much as Caravan Pk fees. Could expect running hotwater, camp kitchen, games room............?
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 09:57

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 09:57
Cruiser , it is extremely bad form to post the price increases on this forum as now some thumb twiddling public servant will notify the QLD national parks bureaucracy and before you can lock the hubs in, the price will increase in QLD parks as well , LOL.
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Follow Up By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 12:53

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 12:53
I just looked up Woody Head (in Bundjalung NP), it's gone up to $14 per night and $7 for kids plus $7 vehicle fee. So that is $42 per night for my family without a pass but still $35 with a pass. Fortunately one kid is under five; I wonder what the fees will be in three years when he does turn five :-(( There is an amenities block but you still have to pay to use the showers!

It does make caravan parks more attractive for the price, though it's rare to find a c.p. in which you can sit around a fire in the evening. Many have their tent area on a paddock devoid of trees and shade.
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Follow Up By: Mr Fawlty - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:43

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:43
The NPWS Camp Ground adjacent to Trial Bay Gaol has been $40 a night for some time....
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Follow Up By: Newbiesb - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:46

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:46
Great time - with an election pending, to contact your local member or the constituent in the areas in question , and let them know your PO. Also helps to contact the tourim managers in the shires because it's in their best interests to get you there. If they realise people won't visit due to high fees, thay may reconsider. Worth a try anyway.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruiser (NSW) - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:50

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 14:50
Mr Fawlty,

Thats why I stopped going to Trial Bay 18 months ago.
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Reply By: Gronk - Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 22:50

Sunday, Nov 04, 2007 at 22:50
I think most NP's should be free, so unless asked, I don't pay !!

They say the fees are for improving services, but all you see is more fences and bollards to prevent access to anyone not endowed with sturdy legs and a 2 man tent..
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Reply By: traveller2 - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 08:18

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 08:18
It could be an attempt too to discourage visitors/campers, why camp out with poor facilities when the local van park is cheaper.
Most of those parks are booked out well in advance for peak times so this may be a way of discouraging visitors.
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Follow Up By: Member - Cruiser (NSW) - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 08:43

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 08:43
Well its worked with me. I know where I would rather be camping, but I wont pay those high prices. My income hasnt gone up and I therefor cannot afford these types of increases in fees.

I have registered my initial protest by writting to NPWS NSW and will continue my protest by not going to those parks that have the high prices.

I will seek out inland parks where the fees are more reasonable, or if I really want to be on the coast, I will go to a van park where I can get value for money by getting hot water and electricity. I will just have to plan ahead a little more.
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Reply By: pojo - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 15:11

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 15:11
This is just plenty more off this sort off ripoff to come from the LABOUR party in N.S.W. imagine what will happen if they win the fedral election..BEWARNED//////
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Reply By: Member - barbara M (NSW) - Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 16:23

Monday, Nov 05, 2007 at 16:23
Have just checked out NPW website and yes the fees have risen by 100% so I sent them an emil registering my thoughts and am going to send an email to local member as weel as morris might be an idea if we can all do the same.
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