200 Series Specs & Prices

Apparently the sub tank/VX/Sahara issue is that the increased weight would alter the formula that determines towing capacity and the VX and Sahara would be limted to 2500kg if they had the second tank. Doesn't apply to the petrol because the petrol engine is lighter than the diesel.

I have no idea how this formula works but that is what the dealers have been told.

Interestingly, in the diesel VX and Sahara there is a gap where the sub tank would have gone so ARB, TJM etc can put a tank in there. However, that opens up a whole new can of worms with insurance legalities.

A V10 Touareg driver would never go back to such a low figure :)

Ummmm, I could do with it.......and then probably work on increasing this somehow as well hehehehehe!!! If only it had a live front end....and a Nissan rear end.......and a Nissan price tag.....Not asking too much am I???? LOL!!

How would I go with that much power?
Its taken me 35000 ks to "adjust" to the 1HZ!,It has only 2 throttle positions you know!

It would be a big hit with the caravaners, start a steep hill with a 18' van and get to the top with a 20'
Shane

Haha, when you say adjust, do yo mean to get used to the massive torque of the 1Hz ??? I've driven my son's 60 series, and the surge on take-off almost caused me to need a visit to the chiro .........You're right about the 2 throttle possies.

Anyone who tows >3000kg

Trevor, I have just the diff centre for you mate. Just try it in as unburstable :-((

You need to try one of these new autos - they are a very nice peice of kit - I've had my TD 100 Series Auto in all sorts of places and I would not go back to a manual. I have a mate who always swaers by manual only in the bush - He's seen mine in action and I think he's almost sold.

I have tried and it still piece of cr@p comparing to manual. In fact I have tried any auto want I can put my hands on, including “prestigious” brands. Still cr@p. And always going to be cr@p up until they rid of torque converter.
Serg

Come to think of it a horse and cart is probably an even better option. Who needs any of these new fangled gadgets anyway?

As per many debates it is personal choice. As for me there are not enough control over auto. Sequential auto in many execution nothing more then marketing gimmick with convenient 123D auto and in fact 123D *IS* better. For me there is nothing about economy – fuel consumption in some autos on par with manuals; modern autos easy go 200+K without any breakdowns (and remember that manuals has clutches); and selling auto is much easy. Manual is not my choice because of Puritanism or savings. Manual gives me full control. And I feel much safer in manual, particularly in hilly terrains. Convenience? I do not drink in the car and do not smoke in the car and do not feel that I need to free my left hand for any other duties.
Cheers
Serg.

Serg. On that I agree wholeheartedly - its a personal choice. Your reasons are valid for what you are looking for in a vehicle and therefore the autos are not "a piece of ..." rather just don't suit you. Fine by me.

I like the control I get uphill in the bush with an auto and with LC100 2nd Start button I can choose between 1st and second just like a manual on the fly. Admittedly I don't like the run on down hill but that can be overcome using an accelerator/brake combination when needed. Autos are also easier on the drive train.

I might be wrong but the LC200 manual mode I thought does allow you to choose and hold the gear you want. It only chooses 1st when you stop. The LC100 will kick down a gear if it thinks it needs to - which isn't ideal so I'm expecting greater things from the LC200.

G

Ok, ok. This piece of …. hmmmm… precision equipment just not for me :-))))).

Yep, biggest disappointment from any autos what I tested was automatically kicking to second gear at 40 km/hr or so, when I lock it at fist; thus engine braking became absolutely impossible and as result you know what going to happens with brakes. So what is the point of this "manual overdrive"?!? And I can make bet that the same things going to happens with 200LC – IMHO somehow it is torque converter fault (sorry, feature) rather then gearbox itself. Another things what really p1sses me is when computer get handicapped, it lock transmission on 3-rd gear (usually, I think it is car dependent); as result clutch (yep, there is clutch inside) get doomed after 10-15 km of city driving. Never can get why it is impossible in emergency situation make this damn thing semi-automatic, i.e. use those gear what I choose by selector.
Cheers
Serg.

Got to agree. I would never consider a manual if auto was available. The manual in the 70 series is notchy. Auto's are way better on the beach, or in virtually any situation.

Just my opinion tho....

It's a personal choice but I feel more at home with a third pedal and something for the left arm to do. Dont like the feel of sludgies no matter how easy they are.


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Ruth !! Good to hear from you again. That afternoon in the pub with you two was one of the nicest parts of our trip.

Are you in SE QLD or back in Birdsville?

Hi you two! In SEQ and start house first thing tomorrow morning - at long last! We did have a nice time in the Pub, didn't we? Had great visitors last Wednesday - Willem and Judith and Doug T and Dusty for morning tea.

It is a 70 series and was released earlier this year.

Kev

Thanks, Kev. My question should have been - Is a Cab/Chassis available with the higher-output 200-Series V8 Diesel ?

It was released as a 70 series earlier this year.

Kev

Just checked the Toyota website, called a local dealer, and as I suspected the Cab Chassis buyers miss out again. The more powerful, more fuel efficient twin-turbo diesel V8 is not available as Cab or Troop Carrier Chassis. There are no plans to change this, so the dealer says.

Get your head out of the sand,
The Landcruiser Cab Chaiis and the Troop Carrier have been released in a twin Turbo Diesel V8

Look here for the Specs............It is not hard to do a search of the Toyota web site


Kev

Kev the 2007 model 76,78 and 79 series vehicles only come with one turbo.
NicI seems to have been hoping for two turbo's on a 79 series which are only on the new 200 series at this stage.

Yeah, thanks John. I can see I will have to be meticulously specific in my questions lest I find my head lodged in the sand.

The V8 Diesel engine I would like to have in a new Toyota LandcCruiser Cab Chassis is the one currently only fitted (to my knowledge) to the 200 series vehicles. It produces 195Kw and 650Nm, and has a stated fuel consumption of 10.5L/100Km.

The comparitively inefficient V8 Diesel fitted to the new/current Toyota Cab Chassis Landcruiser produces 151Kw and 430Nm, while its stated fuel consumption is 11.9L/100Km.

I merely sought confirmation of this information, or ideally, the pleasant news that the more efficient engine was available in Cab Chassis models.

Hi NicI

I suspect the gearing and box style aerodynamics of the 70 series are contributing factors to less fuel economy rather than the reduced amount of turbos/power/torque.

If it is more power/torque you are after, check out dpchips or similar.

Topend

Hi Topend,

Yes, you're probably right about the drag and gearing factors of the 70 series.

Thanks for the chip suggestion, too. I would certainly look at things like chips, gas injection, water intercoolers etc for more power and efficiency; I was just hopeful, perhaps too hopeful, that Toyota may make the better engine available throughout the whole range.

Cheers,

Nic

NicI dunno what you may want to do with your vehicle but the TDV8 in the new 79 series is pretty good for what its designed to do.
Maybe have a drive of one and see what you think.

Thanks John, I will do that. What I really want is a cab chassis 'real' 4WD with at least the power and torque of the 70 series donk, but with the displacement and fuel economy of one of the modern European TDV6's.

I don't really understand why Toyota and Nissan aren't producing an efficient 3L TDV6 (~160Kw/~450Nm) to put in their Hilux/LC and Navara/Patrol vehicles. Maybe they're after more reliability from less stress/load, but I would have thought that could be achieved fairly easily with modern design, materials, and build techniques.

The 200-series engine appealed to me because it produces more power/torque and uses less fuel than the 70 series, and if available as a cab chassis would be the most efficient and powerful (unmodified) on the local market.

Cheers,

Nic

Hey Russki. Welcome back.