Aftermarket or factory bits and pieces
Submitted: Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 18:30
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I'm looking on ebay atm for a new idler/tensioner for the 1HZ timing belt amongst other things. Whilst I've heard good things about a few ebay stores (Roodogs and 4WD Parts etc), these don't use factory parts (
well duh).
Can these aftermarket parts be trusted for critical components (eg tensioners etc) or should I go with Toyota factory parts and be prepared to pay through the nose? For reference 4WD Parts stocks Keya idlers (never heard of them though) and charges $67, and ASCO filters. I don't know what Toyota charges (seems they're not open at midnight when I'm writing this post).
I have no problem with buying non-critical parts off ebay but with the critical components I'm a bit more wary of inferior quality especially if it may lead to $$$ down the track fixing something the cheap part buggered up.
Reply By: Member - 120scruiser (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 19:26
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 19:26
What state are you in ben_gv3??
I know toyota dealers in NSW do some really good deals on genuine toyota timing belt kits so if you know a trady it might be worth trying them. I use all genuine kits as they are reasonably priced IMO.
Genuine parts by all makes are becoming quite respectable except a few. I always check with OEM before after market. Saying that I have fitted 3 timing belt kits to customers cars this week and all have been after market, Dayco brand.
I know I haven't answered your question but some food for thought.
Heres a good one. When you buy a car new the timing belt is set for 100 k or 150 k or what ever the book states. Lets use Toyota Landcruiser. The belt is due at 100 000 km. You change it with a genuine toyota belt and their warranty is 12 months or 20 000km. What tha??? Isn't it supposed to last 100 000 km??/
I haven't been able to answer that one either.
Scott
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:45
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:45
Gday Scott,
Since 1999 the genuine Toyotas have a 150,000km belt interval - makes the 20,000k warranty even sillier!
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Reply By: Pete and Lez - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:26
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:26
Ben, Depends what you call "non critical', personally I stick with genuine parts, except for fluids, although I use genuine coolant. The dual belts on the fan/ alternator are a matched pair when you buy genuine, don't think aftermarket are. Genuine brake pads tend to last forever,
well almost. My thoughts anyway.
Cheers Peter
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Reply By: Pete and Lez - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:26
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:26
Ben, Depends what you call "non critical', personally I stick with genuine parts, except for fluids, although I use genuine coolant. The dual belts on the fan/ alternator are a matched pair when you buy genuine, don't think aftermarket are. Genuine brake pads tend to last forever,
well almost. My thoughts anyway.
Cheers Peter
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Reply By: Pete and Lez - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:26
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:26
Ben, Depends what you call "non critical', personally I stick with genuine parts, except for fluids, although I use genuine coolant. The dual belts on the fan/ alternator are a matched pair when you buy genuine, don't think aftermarket are. Genuine brake pads tend to last forever,
well almost. My thoughts anyway.
Cheers Peter
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Follow Up By: Pete and Lez - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:28
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:28
sorry bout the multiple replies, the joy of dial up
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Reply By: Middle Jeff - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:29
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:29
Hi ben
If you have a Don Kyatt near you find out their price, they carry both original and after market. The aftermarket ones are very good, some of their lines have three options, never take the cheap one.
Also it is a good idea to change the tensioner bearing at the same time.
Have fun
Craig
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Reply By: Member - DOZER- Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:41
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:41
Just remember Toyota make cars not bearings, what you buy from toyota is real good quality, what you buy from ebay is...
well....could be anything from what toyota rejected to a copy of what they rejected....made in china....for something like that, i would stick to toyota...if you change that bearing every 300k your about right...
Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:50
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 20:50
Consider the consequences of a busted belt or a bearing that falls apart - Not just a breakdown in the bush - its the damage done to the motor. I'd get genuine timing belt and tensioner every time. They are supposed to be good for 150,000k these days as
well. And you'll find they are competitively priced.
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Reply By: dandy - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 22:49
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 22:49
ben have had after market tensioner fail at 107,000km. on 5l toyota motor t-belt replacement is due at 150,000km. bent valves etc. ialways fit genuine idlers/ tensioner now to diesel engines. petrol engine not such a problem. agroe
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Reply By: dandy - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 22:52
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 22:52
as to warranty . only 20,000km. should remove cover and inspect tensioner every 20,000km. lol
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Reply By: dandy - Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 22:54
Thursday, Nov 08, 2007 at 22:54
as to warranty . only 20,000km. should remove cover and inspect tensioner every 20,000km. lol
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Reply By: Mogul - Friday, Nov 09, 2007 at 18:49
Friday, Nov 09, 2007 at 18:49
You will find most non OEM parts sold from reputable
places are EXACTLY the same as the OEM part.
Recently I did the clutch in the Rodeo, OEM clutch kit around $900, heavy duty PBR clutch kit $650. On comparing the old pressure plate and throwout bearing the marks and stamping marks were EXACTLY the same, meaning it had been made on the production line.
A lot of people will only buy OEM products thinking they are superior but in a lot of cases they're the same part.
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