Gas for cooking/lighting
Submitted: Friday, Nov 09, 2007 at 23:35
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datsuncredible
Just wondering what fuel source people prefer to use for cooking and lighting. I have used gas for the last 10 years and have not had a problem. But tonight I was having a chat with an experienced camper ( tour guide operatory ) who is totally against using gas and uses fuel instead for the reduced risk of explosion. He said he has seen too many accidents and cannot recommend gas to anyone. I thought it was a fair point as I do know of one person personally who has had a bottle explode ( not
camping ). He recommended a stove such as the Coleman fuel stove. Your thought's...
Regards,
Russell.
Reply By: pop2jocem - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 00:07
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 00:07
datsuncredible
i agree with your thoughts. my first preference is the good ol campfire unless bushfire
hazard is too high. i have used gas for
camp cooking for a lot longer than 10 years without a problem. make sure that bottle to cooker hose and connections are in good condition and tight. electric works for me in caravan parks.
cheers
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 07:20
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 07:20
Strange, I have heaps of examples of accidents with liquid fuels rather then gas.
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Reply By: Member - Willie , Epping .Syd. - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 07:38
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 07:38
datsuncredible,
I also am scared of gas after my fathers fly bridge was blown right off the top of his boat by a leaking bottle .
I have gone over to a shellite stove and campfire .
Whenever I can , I
cook my vegies in the coals wrapped in foil and
cook my meat on it as
well . No washing up and beaut food .
When I am on the move , I have a single burner Sheelite stove that boils a billy much quicker than most gas stoves ( except the big rings )
I no longer have to worry about cylinders in the car leaking or becoming missiles in the event of an accident .
Willie .
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Reply By: Member - Debbie R (SA) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 09:36
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 09:36
Hi
We all have stories of accidents and misshapes, but ultimately it comes down to maintenance of your equipment, get into the habit of checking every piece before packing for a trip and replaceing if necessary. Dont take problems you have found this trip, along with you next trip.
Debbie and Barry
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 13:32
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 13:32
All fuels - LPG, butane, shellite are explosive in confined spaces. Even those gas lighters will leak.
So the issue is storage - keep whatever fuel outside the vehicle.
Coleman stove is not the answer. I use a Coleman, but corugations can easily cause the fuel knob to turn - I built a small catch to stop that from happening.
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Follow Up By: datsuncredible - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:48
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:48
Phil, I have just bought myself a second hand duel fuel Coleman 2 burner stove and see what you mean about
the knob rubbing on the case and causing it to turn. Do you think removing
the knob would work, it's simple enough to remove ?? What have you done to stop it turning ?
Thanks,
Russell.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 23:07
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 23:07
I have used sticky velcro to attach a small piece of plywood (about 50mm x 25mm x9mm thick) under
the knob, so it won't turn. The plywood just pulls away to use the stove, and velcros back for storage.
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Follow Up By: datsuncredible - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 23:31
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 23:31
Good one, nice and simple.
Thanks.
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 16:09
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 16:09
Lighting: Coleman dual fuel lamp and 12V home made fluro - would not entertain gas lighting.
Cooking: Coleman low pressure gas stove and/or fire - although I keep on thinking about buying a Coleman dual fuel stove however as my fridge uses gas I probably won't.
Mike Harding
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Reply By: Member - shane (SA) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:41
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:41
i also have the coleman duel fuel stove, love it, takes some getting use to. after waking up just out side Alice one morning, went to light the gas stove, nothing. the gas was frozen, or that cold it would not light. put up with this for 4 mornings, then drove into Alice and bought a coleman duel fuel.
as far as lighting goes, that same trip, every time we went to light the gas light, had to replace the mantle. so bought a arb 12v fluro while in Alice also. great light and never let me down.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:45
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:45
>the gas was frozen, or that cold it would not light
If you use a low pressure gas stove that won't happen - used
mine down to -5C on many occasions without problems.
Mike Harding
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Reply By: datsuncredible - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:54
Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:54
Thank you all for your great advice, I have got myself a duel fuel Coleman and will be buying a second 12V light. No more gas bottles to lug around.
Thanks,
Russell.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:24
Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 08:24
Hi Russell
I no longer use my Coleman fuel stove(s) as they have proven unsafe in inexperienced hands and have for a few years now used the small gas canister stoves (220g) in conjunction with small 12v stoves.
These gas cannister stoves have issues to and one exploded in
camp next to us once and the actual stove landed at my feet.
Ultimately I agree with comments about all of these fuels being potentially unsafe , however the overriding thing about the cheap cannisters stoves is that the amount of fuel and bits you are dealing with is small and limited and this limits the potential destructive effect.
Robin Miller
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Reply By: Ron173 - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 15:28
Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 15:28
Totally coleman fuel now
(shellite, although coleman fuel actually cheaper than most shellite outlets and has better anti corrosion qualities)
Powerhouse cooker, and Northstar lantern, both on same fuel.
Ron
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Reply By: datsuncredible - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 18:09
Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 18:09
Definitely all the fuels above have their dangers, but in my opinion the higher the pressure in which they're stored in the bigger the bang if they were to go.
Russell.
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