OT.. when do you give up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

..............Never!

Empathies...........have 15 yo daughter!

First rule of life;

Don't get involved with other peoples kids (or wife :-)!

Hi All
I hope I dont sound cynical,
Why is it that the good kids go un-noticed,
And the problem kids are always in the Lime-Light. and get more
attention.

Cheers
Daza

Hairy,

It's difficult to help someone if they don't want to be helped. But if your mate is desperate and has asked for your help with his son and you feel you can, then you should try. It's easier to just give up and say "he's a lost cause" but if there's a chance you can make a difference then do your best.

Viv

Wants to get locked up?

I'd start by explaining to him what will happen to his bum in jail/detention centre and take it from there.

Hairy.....Mate......Been there twice,

Care about them, support them, be there for them, advise them, but only they can change their ways themselves.

If they stay alive long enough and with all the above they usually come right.
Your in for a long haul mate, good one ya and good luck.

Cheers.....Lionel.

I wonder why he is classed as a lost cause? ........ or is it he does not fit what others want him to be and simply needs to get away from his current environment to find his own path. To me he sounds like he's after attention and does not matter what form it will come in and also does not like being told not to do something.

Does he have a job and would he work if not. How old is he?

I'm not sure how you intend on helping but good on you for at least trying not that it will be easy just go in with eyes wide open :).

Brian

> fawk I love a chalenge , or just a gluten for punishment...

If the kid doesnt want help, let him learn the hard way in jail with bubba. or is he one of the lucky peopole who can do everythin wrong, but our laws cant touch them thats why he baits the bacon...?

Gday All,

Thanks for the thoughts...I know its very off topic but it was fairly late when I made the decision and was looking for a bit of a reality check.

The Mrs. is a bit worried but will back me, and Ive got full support from a mate who is a Snr. Sargent. Im about to go and see a couple of other mates who are screws and see if I can take the young fella for a tour of the place hes so eager to get in to.

Like people have more or less said " you can lead a horse to water but........", Im hoping maybe this is all he needs.....a bit of direction and a little push!
I suppose all I can do Is try to explain where he is in life, show him his options are and offer to help.
If I can just get it into his head , Its not too late to change!!!!
The same time if he crosses me or my family which is known to do I will let him know in no certain terms I will rip his head off and crap down his neck!!

Why do I get my self into these situations? Probably because I could have gone that way myself!

Thanks for your thoughts and ideas!!

Cheers
Hairy

Gday Hairy. If more people were like you I don't think we would have as many problems with our kids as we do. Keep your chin up mate. You are one of the good ones.
Col

Hairy

I'm with Col and others. Good onya and good luck.

Cheers JD

Hairy,

Sounds like you've got the attitude to match his. Only thing yours is headed the right way. Good luck!

Tend to agree with Kim, that he needs a stint on a station, just to show him he's not so tough. This work can give a lot of Generation "Y" kids the right direction in life, and a lot of self respect & confidence.

If not send him to Afghanistan..........soon see how tough he is then,

Enjoy the challenge,

Hooroo...

Hello Hairy

If he is dead set against work it may be easier to find what he would regard as a fun job than to change his attitude . I have only had two jobs , the RAAF and civilian helicopter flying and I rate enjoyable work highly . If you could get him interested in the military you may have the answer .