type of snake found in Garden

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 12:31
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My husbaand has found a small snake approx 25 cm in length with an orangy back fine black lines and a yellow under belly. It has a blackhead and a second black stripe after its head - I am trying to find a website that might identify certain snakes or do I have to buy a book? It has been found on Groote Eylandt.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 12:36

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 12:36
Swanny, this website may help

http://www.kingsnake.com/oz/
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 16:14

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 16:14
As may this one:

Oz snakes
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 17:45

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 17:45
Taipan ?

If it is I would RUNNNNNN
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 17:47

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 17:47
Oh... that's 'cause you're a wimp who's only used to sheep :)
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Follow Up By: Member - Clive G (NZ) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 19:06

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 19:06
Ha Ha Mike.
As a Kiwi who spends 1/3 of his life in Oz (and loves it) it always amuses me that while Kiwis are scared of snakes, Aussies are terrified.
CliveG (NZ)
PS. NZ is steadily getting out of sheep so it just maybe that Oz has more sheep per head than NZ. now wouldn't that be a turn around. LOL.
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:13

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 18:13
Probably a Juvenile Black Headed Python.

Cheers Steve.
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Follow Up By: Luxy - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:55

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:55
Yep, that would be my guess to.
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:59

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 06:59
If it is a woma ( black headed python ) they are worth a bit :)

but just so you know , you are not allowed to keep wild caught snakes / pythons .... Only pythons bred in captivity - and then you need to apply for a class 1 license from NPWS

heavy fines apply

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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 20:44

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 20:44
shovel nose snake comes to mind (harmless)
Possibly orange naped or moon snake
Also at 25 cm could be a juvinile morph as many snakes ahsze a totally different appearance as a juv
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Reply By: 80seriescruiser - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:44

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:44
Sovel to the head first, look for species later.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:49

Saturday, Nov 10, 2007 at 22:49
keep your paranoid un informed crap to yourself and try and get yourself some some respect for Australian native wildlife - dont own a cat as well do you?
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Follow Up By: nowimnumberone - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 10:56

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 10:56
mr snappy.
i think he mant it tounge in cheek
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:13

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:13
nope hes made simular dumb coments in another thread
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Reply By: The Explorer - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 11:20

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 11:20
Hello - It is difficult to determine species based on limited description provided. The only species I know off that could possibly have all the features listed i.e.

Black head and a second black stripe after its head
orangy back fine black lines
yellow under belly.

is the Gwardar (also called Western Brown) – Pseudonaja nuchalis. This species is highly variable in colours and patterns (16 variations noted in NT alone – Wilson and Swan 2005) some certainly very close to description given.

I have discounted the Black-headed Python, Moon Snake and the Northern Shovel Nosed snake principally as there is no mention of these having a yellow belly (in adult or juvenile stage).

Note: Woma’s and Black-headed Pythons are two different species. Womas dont have black on head, neck or throat. They also don’t occur in the area in question.


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Greg
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:50

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 12:50
A Black Headed Python has dark brown to ocre (orange) stripes on it's back fading to a yellowish under belly.

A Western Brown Can have up to 32 different colour patterns.

Cheers Steve
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 13:32

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 13:32
Hello - yes I have just looked at my Cogger and it mentions yellow belly....but not sure about the double black banding on head - though maybe very young individuals have this (but no reference I have mentions this).

Also one important issue - is the Black-headed Python found on Groote?- my version of Cogger shows Olive, Children, Carpet and Water Pythons as being present ...but not Black-headed - Cogger could be wrong but Im not game to challenge him.

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Greg
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Follow Up By: The Explorer - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 13:40

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 13:40
......other issue is size. Snake in question is (or was:) 25cm long. Black-headed Python hatchlings are ~55cm long when they emerge so specimen in hand is unlikley to be one if in fact they do exist on the island in the first pace.

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Greg
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