NextG handset with external antenna connection

Submitted: Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 17:52
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Hi All,

I have a couple of questions. I am about to move from CDMA to NextG, and would like to know...

1) has anyone bought a recent NextG handset and managed to get it hardwired to an external antenna

2) assuming that you can use an external antenna, will it really help without first having the signal from/to the antenna boosted? does anyone know if this is possible

thanks
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Reply By: Member - grant M (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 18:26

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 18:26
Hi there Trolute

I have a LG TU 550 next g car kit and 7.5db high gain mast fitted to my ute and found that on our recent trip around corner country that it worked extremely well, we allso had 2 other next g phones with us and found that they rarely had signal.

hope this helps , im very happy with my set up

Grant
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Follow Up By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:00

Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 02:00
yes, went to the 'blessing of the fleet' in Dongara yesterday, (about 380Klm north of Perth) talked to the local Telstra Country reps at the field day and was shown the LG 550, it was being demonstrated as being only one of three mobile phones recommended by Telstra for use in the 'country' the other two were both 'different' brands, I wrote down the names but left them at 'home'
They all have the "blue tick" by Telstra for use in distant areas.
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Follow Up By: stocky - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 07:26

Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 07:26
ZTE 165
Samsung A412
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 23:31

Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 23:31
Well the 500 also has the tick even though it struggles beyond direct ine of sight I wouldnt pay much attention to the 'tick"
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Follow Up By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Tuesday, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:11

Tuesday, Nov 13, 2007 at 11:11
Ok, so I only wrote down one brand, the Samsung 411, however after 'googling' to look at it's picture I will admit it was not the most recommended phone - but it looked "nice"

It well may have been the ZTE 165, as mentioned above, as I remember it did have a 'weird' name and I can't find a picture of it...

It was black, it was in a plastic click on "holster" type of phone holder and it had an extendable aerial, which was claimed to give it better coverage than the other two phones with the 'blue tick'
From memory it was about $500 to buy.
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Reply By: Member - Douglas M (SA) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 18:54

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 18:54
Hi Trolute,
In the Flinders Ranges we had a similar experience to Grant M . We had a ZTE phone in a car kit with a broomstick antenna which had greater range than the other Next G phone with no kit and about the same range as the CDMA phone also with no kit or external antenna.
Doug
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Reply By: dieseltojo - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 19:03

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 19:03
Hi trolute,
Same as other people, we had a new G phone on the Canning and it was useless.
Regards Paul Klat.
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Follow Up By: Member - Jerry C (WA) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 23:48

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 23:48
How many Mobile phone outlets are there within 150Km of the Canning Stock route? I would suggest there is Just "1", Wiluna at the south end.

Turn your mobile off, save the battery.

Cheers, Jerry.
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Follow Up By: stocky - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 07:27

Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 07:27
ummm - looking at the coverage maps - what did you expect???
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Follow Up By: dieseltojo - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 19:19

Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 19:19
Ah Yes,But to get to the Canning we went from Melbourne to Ceduna then Coolangatta. The person who owned the phone was unimpressed every where we went.Apparently it was not through the Alice as well.Only relaying some one else's views here.

Regards Paul Klat.
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Follow Up By: dieseltojo - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 19:19

Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 19:19
Ah Yes,But to get to the Canning we went from Melbourne to Ceduna then Coolangatta. The person who owned the phone was unimpressed every where we went.Apparently it was not through the Alice as well.Only relaying some one else's views here.

Regards Paul Klat.
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Reply By: Member - Mark E (VIC) - Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 19:54

Sunday, Nov 11, 2007 at 19:54
I also have the LG TU550 and am generally happy with the reception, both with and without the car kit. My only real criticism is that the car kit is of quite low quality and a bit fiddly to use, in comparison with other kits that I've had over the years with CDMA and previously analogue.

Other than that, I think it's OK. Telstra has just brought out a new phone ZTE165 I think. It can also have a fully wired car kit with physical antenna connection....worth a look also.

Cheers,

Mark
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Reply By: TerraFirma - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 14:28

Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 14:28
I use an Imate JasJam and various external antennas , one for the boat and one for the car, they both improve reception and can be the difference between having some reception or none at times. The quality of antennas will vary and so will their s-called gain rating, generally speaking the broomstick antennas directly coupled to your device are best (better than through-glass etc) but speak to your local radio shop for more advice.

Here is one link to the RF Shop, there are many people doing them and can also be bought via Ebay.

http://www.rfshop.com.au/ContactUs/Bloggs/tabid/648/EntryID/12/Default.aspx

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Reply By: Richard W (NSW) - Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 17:53

Monday, Nov 12, 2007 at 17:53
trolute,

I have an LG TU500 and bought the proprietary car kit which has an inductive connection to the external aerial on recomendation from telstra and the installer.

I understand there is also an after market kit for this phone which is hard wired.

I had the kit installed professionally with my old CDMA broomstick aerial. I found on a recent trip to Karumba there was only marginal improvement in phone range than without the aerial.

I was expecting better range.

I also compared it against my CDMA Nokia 6255 which I still have and found the CDMA was still better in most places..
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Reply By: John R (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:39

Tuesday, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:39
I had a TU500 (older model, no direct antenna connection as I understand the 550 now has) and I hated it. Crap reception, and the sound quality of the car kit was awful. (Though I know people who love them and have no problems.)

It sadly died in a tragic trough cleaning incident.

I now have a nokia 6120, and love it. Mainly because I find it has much better reception capability than my TU500 (I can make calls with it in places the LG couldn't). Only downside I've found so far is that the battery only lasts a day or so.
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Follow Up By: John R (SA) - Tuesday, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:43

Tuesday, Nov 13, 2007 at 07:43
I forgot about the antenna bit . . . . the 6120 now has a cradle available from force with passive antenna coupling. I am amazed at how well this seems to work (judging by signal strength indicator plus places I can now make calls from).

The cradle only provides a mode of connection to an antenna and a way of holding the phone. To add power, it requires a car charger ($20 cigarette lighter jobby), and to use hands free you need a bluetooth car kit. Nokia suggest one of theirs, but there's no reason you can't use one of those in ear jobbies.
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