LC Seat Belt

I'll second that - seat belts should be purchased as new.

Karl

I will third that - Safety should NEVER be compromised, a life cannot be replaced.

Fail to see what is wrong with seatbelt from wrecker. As long as it in good condition and has not been damaged I would go for it in blink of an eye. If use your logic, then belts from *ALL* second-hand vehicles should be stripped and thrown away (indeed no-one know they history!!!) and vehicles should be send to Child Restraint Fitting Station altogether with brand new belts from Toyota to be fitted by qualified fitter. May I ask you if you ever got second-hand vehicle to say such nonsense?
Serg

Serg,

Without going into great detail that would take too much space here to explain to you - but I have been involved in a matter concerning the webbing/strapping that failed and resulted in the death of a person.

Admittedly the piece of equipment was not a seat belt but they were made from the same material and the seat belt undergoes stronger forces on a daily basis than the item we were looking at.

Damage to the webbing material material is not always visible but in an incident where sudden force is appilied it will snap at the weakest point causing a catotrophic fail (and in my case above lead to the death of a young man).

It is also the same reason that all snatch straps that are used on a regular basis should be physically inspected because they are made of the same material and are put under extreme force - I would assume that you have had your snatch strap inspected after use, particulay if it was a difficult recovery and if there is any sign of even minor fraying you replaced it or are you the type to pack it away and should it ever break blame someone else.

You may want to sit in a seat and wear a seatbelt from a wrecked vehicle - but I peronally wouldn't especially if it was the drivers side.

All seat belts should be replace at the first sign of damage and this includes minor fraying or a small cut etc. You may want to put your life at risk but respect other peoples right to be safe.

Karl

Gday Karl

I fully understand where you're coming from mate , but i havent seen anywhere in this post where anyone is saying to use an obviously damaged seatbelt, i mean its just common sense isnt it?? if its damaged in anyway throw it away ......Cheers.....Dave

Dave,

No problems - the big issue with seat belts, snatch straps, winch ropes etc is that whilst the webbing material is strong and may last forever, damage can occur which is unseen to to the naked eye.

When a lot of sudden force is suddenly applied to the item - i.e. the seat belt - there is a particular point on the belt where that force is applied. If the force is constantly applied to the same spot it will eventually weaken at that point. In these cases the force applied is generated as heat and the damage can not be seen with the naked eye and therefore is not apparent.

What happens one day is that sudden force is applied to the weaken point, it is generated as heat, which then snaps the strap / belt etc and you have a catastrophic failure.

A classic example of this - as stated in my earlier posts - is the snatch strap. If it is used regularly and with force - rather than nice smooth action - a weak spot will form and it is usually in the centre. One day you will go to use it - the strap looks fine - and you go to pull a car out and you use a lot of force (because the vehicle may be extremely bogged) and the strap breaks.

I hope this helps - I am not an engineer etc so I can't give exact formulas etc - I have just tried to explain it as it was explained to me.

Karl

Barn , when i worked at a wrecking yard here in S.A we were never allowed to sell seat belts , totally against the law, but if someone ever came in and asked for a seatbelt for any other reason than fitting back into a vehicle we used to be able to give them away.......Cheers.......Dave

I understand where the safety people are comming from BUT... if you buy a second hand vehicle that has had 'invisable' repairs you do not know if the seat belts have been subjected to an 8 G sudden stop against another vehicle !

Gday Kiwi

You wont get any argument on that from me mate , i totally agree with you.....besides if you were to replace your seatbelt with a secondhand one from a wrecking yard , who , apart from yourself would honestly know???

Cheers......Dave



BTW Barn if you like i can have a look at the yard where i used to work, if you want, i think from memory he had a couple of Toyotas there

Kiwi Kia,

Most of the vehicles that end up in the wreckers are a wright off, so yes you don't know what has happened to them.

A vehicle, any vehicle second or the one you have owned, if it was repaired it would have all this check out before it was allowed back onto the road. Well you would hope so.

Wayne

Wayne, If the belt buckle goes click, there no obvious nicks or fraying on the belt and the inertia mechanism works then it would be accepted.

Borgy, I am looking for a drivers 'stalk' & buckle for my 75 series Troopy to be used for the passenger side. When I changed the front bench seat to a car seat the buckle assembly for the passenger seat now falls down to the floor instead of standing up straight like the drivers.

Gday Wayne,

Do you honestly believe that if a vehicle was involved in a crash and was repaired and had a seatbelt replaced with a seconhand one , the person doing the inspection would be able to see that it has been replaced???........Cheers......Dave

Hi All,

Thanks for your input.

Dave, if you dont mind having a look for belt and inertia reel that would be great, happy to pay a fair price and postage cost.....Failling that l have found a manufacturer in Ballarat, Victoria (Hemco) that will either repair the inertia reel or replace it. All l have to do is post it to them for an assessment and they will advise price which should considerable cheaper than the replacement genuine one.

Note, the after market type wouldn't fit/work with the 80 series as the stork is bolted to seat.

Thanks again everyone

Barn

Ps: 4wd is costing me $$ but lm saving heaps by learning to do stuff myself. Next Job Piston Caliper Seasl Replacement, Was Quoted $600. replacement Kit x 2 $60 plus my time.