Do Nissan wheels fall off ?

Try an archive search its been posted quite often.
This was one post just recently Nissan losing wheels

Mate runs a vehicle hire company and said he has had a few fall off

can't remember which wheel but it is the same one every time

Cocka

As John indicated in his reply there was a post a couple of weeks ago about recent incidents.

I mentioned in that Post my experience from last year. To read more go to posts 35665 and 34261 in the archive.

Yes it does appear to be fairly common and it does appear to be an alloy wheel problem.

I think (but have not heard anything definate from Nissan Australia despite repeated attempts) that Nissan Australia have told all dealers to make sure they use a torque wrench when changing wheels. The torque setting info is in the handbook - 100ft lb. My dealer certainly uses them now - they didn't before my wheel came adrift.

I now use steel wheels when on trips and always check torque settings.

I do think that Nissan Australia have a duty of care to ensure that all Patrol owners are aware of the importance of using a torque wrench and I think they should eb doing further testing on the alloy wheels and recalling them if required.

I have also made a report to DOTARS and recommend that other owners who have lost a wheel do the same. It will only be weight of numbers that enables DOTARS to put pressure on Nissan to take action.

If you need anymore info send a MM

Peter

If you keep the nuts tight and check them regularly as you would on any light truck operating in off-road conditions or not, then they should not "fall off".

My back wheel fell off.

Redeye

Check the wheel nuts...

I have NEVER regularly checked the wheel nuts on any vehicle or trailer I have owned, driven or been driven in.

No-one of my acquaintance has done so either.

The only occasion when a wheel has fallen off was on an Austin A30 at 4.00 am after a full night working on it, when I know that I only put the nuts on finger tight and did not do that wheel with the wheel brace.

For ANYONE to say that regular checking of torque of wheel nuts is required is absolute NONSENSE.

You would be advocating regular dynamometer testing if the brakes next.

What we need is a Ralph Nader to sue the bollocks off of them.....

Ken

Nick R carries a torque wrentch now, since le lost his left rear alloy wheel. Doesn't seem to happen if you give them correct torque or use steel wheels.

I just remembered an article I read elsewhere that may be of help to those who are alloyly challenged. Quote - " Hi there - I have also come across alloy wheels coming loose - the problem on mine is quite simple - the wheel nuts have a tapered shoulder and were designed for steel rims. The Alloys fitted were designed for nuts with a flat washer (shoulder) and the use of the wrong wheel nuts compresses the alloy stud hole and eventually work loose.

The second problem I came across on a mitsubishi pajero also related to alloy wheels coming off - after market alloys were fitted, but no one had looked carefully at the ridge running around the hub - this shoulder protruded and prevented the alloy rim from sitting hard against the hub. As a result, no matter how you tightened the wheel, with use the alloy wore on the ridge and then came loose. Solution - fit a machined spacer the same thickness of the ridge so the alloy rim seats against the hub across its full width. Hope this helps" K Jensen -
End of quotes.

From the Westprint Newsletter..
.I am a Tour operator and since
1999 have owned nine Nissan Patrols, still have three. All the vehicles have
done in excess of 300000 Kms before disposal. That is about 3million
kilometres. In that time I have lost or damaged three LHS rear wheels. Every one
was in my opinion operator error. Not checking the studs often enough, worn or
broken studs or dirt under the wheel when it has been replaced. They have always
got me home. I have lost both steel split rims and alloy after market wheels. As
for the other mob, I have never heard them admit to anything any way. Bill
Brinkworth, Outback Bush Adventures.
·
A 2005 Nissan, a hire vehicle from
Kalgoorlie was stranded at Warakurna Roadhouse when we called there last
week, having lost a mag wheel.
Another problem worth
discussing is Toyota Landcruisers and troopcarriers cracking diffs. One gave
way on the Great Central Road last week and another troopcarrier
passed through this morning with its rear wheel at an acute angle on the
back of a truck. Two months ago rear diffs on two Landcruisers failed
between Uluru and Docker River. This is at a time when the road is at its best
condition in years. David.
·
I was working as a police officer
in Birdsville in July 2005 when the front passenger wheel came of a Nissan
patrol (alloy wheels again). This occurred about 90 km north of Birdsville
on the road to Bedourie. The tyre had been changed in Birdsville
earlier that day by the driver. The driver was a medical technician who
claimed to have tightened the nuts as far as he felt could have been done
without over doing it. As he was travelling around to all isolated
ambulances in Western Queensland to check their gear over and make any repairs,
I figured he knew a bit about tightening nuts and bolts.
The result was the vehicle rolled with two passengers on board who walked away
stiff, sore and very shaken but otherwise unscathed. The vehicle of course
was a write off.
The mechanics at the Diamantina Shire Council (in Bedourie) said they knew of
several similar incidents (prior to this crash) - all alloy wheeled
Patrols. It would appear to be a problem that has been going on for longer than
the last 12 - 18 months. Ross
·
As promised, I report the
members of the Nissan 4wd club of Victoria have suffered wheel stud failures in
many cases but predominantly with alloy wheels. There seems to be no known
reason for it even torquing to the required pressure. Alan. Nissan 4wd club Vic.

DDR had one fall off few weeks ago infront of me around Murray Sunset.. changed the day before, snapped stud, all other nuts loose..

Mine are steel wheels (Nissan Originals) and I had one come right off after shearing all 6 studs on the drivers side rear. Luckily (if you want to look at it that way) I was crossing a dry creek bed and the hub fell into the sand. Lots of dirt etc in and around the brakes, but was easily cleaned out. Only problem was I was about 60 km from Marble Bar on a remote and unused track.

Mate stayed with me whilst the other half and her mum drove into "the bar" in mates car and sourced some second hand ones. Good service from some local aboriginal people who offered to follow them out to make sure all was OK. Same aboriginal fellow checked up on the other half the following week when he was in Port Hedland Hospital, to make sure she had returned!! Also the local wrecker helped out to make sure the sourced studs were the same diameter as the old ones.

An hour of jacking and packing with rocks and logs and we were on our way. Those studs are still on there today!

So it's not just the alloy ones that have these problems. Now I've got to get around the steel ones and the cracks in the spokes.

Mine are steel wheels (Nissan Originals) and I had one come right off after shearing all 6 studs on the drivers side rear. Luckily (if you want to look at it that way) I was crossing a dry creek bed and the hub fell into the sand. Lots of dirt etc in and around the brakes, but was easily cleaned out. Only problem was I was about 60 km from Marble Bar on a remote and unused track.

Mate stayed with me whilst the other half and her mum drove into "the bar" in mates car and sourced some second hand ones. Good service from some local aboriginal people who offered to follow them out to make sure all was OK. Same aboriginal fellow checked up on the other half the following week when he was in Port Hedland Hospital, to make sure she had returned!! Also the local wrecker helped out to make sure the sourced studs were the same diameter as the old ones.

An hour of jacking and packing with rocks and logs and we were on our way. Those studs are still on there today!

So it's not just the alloy ones that have these problems. Now I've got to get around the steel ones and the cracks in the spokes.

Well, what are all you entrepreneurial lawers waiting for.

where is the class action????

For 50% of the compensation, you could make a killing...

Ken