Weighbridge data for my van and Cruiser - is it all legal ?

Wille,

The towing weight should be alright. 3.5 tonne is the max rating on the tow bar.

You would have to look at the GVM. You should have this on the rego papers.

I think that you would be close to the GVM,(Gross Vehicle Mass).


Wayne

We have a 100 series and my understanding is that the legal ball weight of the vehicle is .350 tonnes, therefore you would be legal.
Have a friend who has 20' BT and his total weight is 6.7 tonnes
with the LC coming in at just over 3 tonnes.

G'day Willie,

I drive a 100series poverty pack (read base model) for work. It has ARB lift, draws, cargo barrier, 60 litre Engel, dual batteries, steel ARB bar, Warn XD9000 winch, 2nd spare, Stratos seating, 3 x Rhino bars and steel full length rack etc. We had it loaded as if to go away in the bush for a few days so myself and and offsider, full fuel load, water, food, 15hp outboard, 12 punt etc. We were weighing in at 3.44 t so waaaay over GVM - I was under the impression that the 100 series GVM was 3180 but I may be wrong.
That vehicle will be replaced with a Nissan c/c with Telstra style body with a 3.7 t GVM upgrade so we can do our work without any fear of overlaoding anymore.
We have been told that is the drivers responsibility to ensure the vehicle does not exceed GVM as insurance is void etc

Good luck

Gday Willie

I'm going through this process now with our LC100. It's a pity that the cruiser has such a low carrying capacity. I would like to get a Kedron behind mine but after I get everything into the cruiser there is not enough left for the ball weight of the one I want.

My understanding is that the GVM for the LC100 is 3260kg. If your cruiser weighed 3180kg with all you gear on board, full fuel tanks, caravan hooked up, and driver and passenger(s) seated then you are 80kg under max. However if any of those was not there you might have a bit of a problem if there's an accident - ie your insurance may not be valid.

While you were on the weighbridge it would have been would have been useful to get the axle weights on the cruiser as well as there are maximums on these as well.

Ball weight of 180kg for a 2580kg van seems pretty low. Was the van fully loaded when it was weighed?

The other number you have to watch out for is the combined gross vehicle mass which from memory is 6760kg.

regards

John

Willie,
Yep, once you fill your fuel tanks (say another 120kg), you'll be over the GVM.....let alone what other stuff and people you might load into/onto the truck.
I've got the same issues....my Chev 6.5 tips the scales at around 3.5t with me in the driver's seat, but without being loaded up. The GVM is 3040kg. So, effectively, my insurance premium is a waste of money, but I pay it to cover me in case of theft or fire etc.
If I have a bingle, they'll probably wipe like a dirty nose.

the GVM is the main one if your over that by a gram you are illegal & would not have any insurance check with the state gov & manufacture as some may have a towing capacity of 3500kg But this is also Only legal if the tow vehicle is at its Max GMV
also check with your manufacture on max axle weights as too much on one axle & again its illegal

I have a Patrol 6x4 (4500gmv) which i load to the max at times & i have been checked several times & they weight it with every body in it, mainly out western NSW, & they (RTA with Police) have pulled over every 4wd with large van or horse float.

good luck

If I ever buy a 200 cruiser , I will make sure I buy an alloy bar , as the weight advantage is huge .

I have heard that you can get an engineer to upgrade certain things on your car and give you an officially uprated GVM . Can anybody tell me more about this .

Thank you all for you posts ,

Willie .

Wille
While you're worrying about your weights, here's another litte gem for you.
You said earler ..."I would hate to think of what the weight would be if I put the second row seats back in - at the moment I have a cargo platform there ."
My understanding is that if you remove the back seats you've altered the factory specs of the vehicle and technically the insurer can refuse a claim. There's been some discussion about that on this site, check the archives. I'm not sure how seriously anyone takes it, ..but

Willie,

For this exact reason I think Troopys and Cruiser utes are way under rated for tow hacks.

They both give about a tonne of payload.

Sit two people, a tank or two of fuel, 2-300kgs of ball load on the back-nearly everything else is now at its limit or over!! Then we add bull bars, rear bars, roof racks, water tanks, roller draws full of gear, fridges etc etc.....

I think this is a HUGE issue-mainly because of the insurance implications and what could happen to you if you were in an accident and proved to be driving over GVM (illegal/unroadworthy according to the people who decide).

Perhaps the problem is most people here would be guilty of over loading and there is no easy solution??????

Matt