Solar Test Results Uni Solar 64 Watt

Submitted: Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 09:30
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As I type the US 64 is plugged into my aux battery and the Waeco 50 is turned up full noise to keep the compressor running constantly.

The fridge is in the back of the car in full sun with the doors open. Temp in the car is 33.

I have a volt meter attached to the battery and the voltage is very slowly creeping up which tells me the panel is just keeping ahead of the fridge.

Now if I was to park the car in the shade and take advantage of the 10 M cable on the panel and turn the thermostat on the fridge down, the panel would make significant headway.
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Reply By: blue one - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 09:59

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 09:59
Jimbo,
Are you going to mount it on your roof rack?
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Follow Up By: Jimbo from Best Off Road - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 10:52

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 10:52
Blue

In the past I would have said no. That was because I was running an 80L Waeco and for that to have any chance it was essential to have the car in the shade and the panel in the sun.

Now that the new fridge is permanently mounted in the car I'm thinking I'll bung the panel on the roof and run the fridge full time.

Jim.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 14:35

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 14:35
Jim,
you say; ""I have a volt meter attached to the battery and the voltage is very slowly creeping up which tells me the panel is just keeping ahead of the fridge""

Can I ask what the battery voltage is slowly creeping up from ?
and to what voltage it gets to ??

What the volt meter is measuring is only the "charging" voltage from the solar REGULATOR (or panel, if no regulator used) and as soon as the panel is 'disconected' the voltage will return to it's 'rested' state voltage.

On my 'rig pics' it can clearly be seen my fridge/freezer draws a hearty 7.8 Amps when running ( or ~2.8ah ) and the battery does remain constantly @ 13.8 Volts while still being 'trickle' charged by the solar system with the fridge running.

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Reply By: blue one - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 13:22

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 13:22
Jimbo,

I'm running a 32 & a 40 litre engel, therefore I have two panels. Tried them in the back and were a nuisance. I'm trying to come up with a smart idea to mount them on the roof rack with the spare tire underneath, in front of the roof top tent. Uni strut is overkill and would weigh a ton.

Any ideas?

Cheers
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Follow Up By: Jimbo from Best Off Road - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 15:12

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 15:12
Blue,

Go and visit an aluminium screen door manufacturer. The framing for screen doors has little interlocking fittings and is easy to put together. Cheap as chips too.

Call me on 0411 874406.

Jim.
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Reply By: lifeisgood - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 15:37

Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 15:37
Its a Dilema really. Car & fridge likes shade . Somestimes car is locked up while you go walking etc, shade is then essential.

Solar panel wants strong sun and you need to sun track every few hours to get the best from it.
Its a nuisance to carry and I lock my BP80W up with a cable to the vehicle or van.

I have decided to get a physically smaller folding unit (80 or 100w)when funds allow and mount the fixed panel on my caravan roof.
I will be charging my aux. battery from this especially when travelling in full sun. I will run the fridge from either car or van batteries and use the portable panel wherever required.

I found that pulling in after a day on the road it wasnt worth setting up the portable panel for the measly amount of energy gained after 5pm say. Nor in the morning before 8.30 am say.
I run a Waeco 35.
Some friends have purchased a roll up flexible panel (military style)
I'm interested to see how that goes. Think its about 60W.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 01:55

Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 01:55
I think you will find no Solar panel will charge any battery when you are actually driving, even in full and perfect sunny conditions...

Even when you pull into a shopping centre car park, for the time you are actually shopping, the Solar panel will probably NOT charge the battery that much either, because it's been charged by the Alternator on the way from where you were, to the shops and hopefully it's fully charged, unless it's only a wet cell battery.

For solar to be successful "long term", you must charge the battery system more in a 24 hour period than you draw from it, anything less is only a compromise, however still much better than nothing at all.
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Reply By: blue one - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 17:12

Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 17:12
Mainy,
Get off the drugs mate you are talking gibberish
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Follow Up By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 15:42

Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 15:42
blue one,
obviously you don't understand what I've posted to suggest it's "gibberish"

just come right out and say what it is that you don't understand and I will endeavour to explain it for you in small simple words !!



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Reply By: blue one - Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 18:00

Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 18:00
Ok double the dose as they are not working.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 19:56

Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 19:56
Blueone , what part of the solar setup cant you get thru your brain ? Mainey is telling you simply that a solar panel mounted on a moving vehicle will NOT put any significant charge into the battery , the vehicle charging system is already replacing all power usage while the motor is running ,
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Reply By: blue one - Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 20:21

Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 20:21
Even when you pull into a shopping centre car park, for the time you are actually shopping, the Solar panel will probably NOT charge the battery that much either, because it's been charged by the Alternator on the way from where you were, to the shops and hopefully it's fully charged, unless it's only a wet cell battery.

You both should know an alt will only do 80% and the panels can make up the rest.

Go and enjoy the drugs together
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 20:40

Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 20:40
Easy to see that school holidays have started ,, pray tell us all with your profound wisdom and knowledge why /when and howfor the alt will only do 80% and the panels in a MOVING vehicle do the rest or at any other time for that matter ,,
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Follow Up By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 23:00

Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 23:00
Axel,
Don't wast your time with blue, his reply "AnswerID: 272179" and also "AnswerID: 276699 " shows his complete lack of any technical knowledge on things 12 Volt and Solar.

Yes, as you say, skools out :-) :-)

From memory, the open circuit Voltage of a 80% State of Charge wetcell battery is just under 12.5 Volts, probably ~12.45v to 12.48v or thereabouts.

If I owned a vehicle that only charged my 12 Volt (wetcell) battery (which is 12.66 Volts when 100% charged) to only 80% State of Charge, I would complain vehemently to the vehicle manufacturer that they are using inefficient charging methods.

Yes, as blue states, (and also my original post too) the solar system will "make up the rest" - IF REQUIRED ! ! !

BUT -->

most often there is no "rest" to make up !!!

Reason being->

The SOLAR system will be charging the AUX battery BEFORE the drive to the shops anyway, and therefore the battery WILL allready be FULLY CHARGED.

The Solar panel/s will NOT charge the battery while driving to the shops, because the Alternator _IS_ "maintaining" the allready FULLY CHARGED battery while travelling.

As is said skools out - or should that be 'skools still in' for some :-)

As I said Blue, if you don't understand something, just ask for assistance !!

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Reply By: blue one - Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 20:41

Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 20:41
Double the dose sunshine
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Follow Up By: blue one - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 06:42

Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 06:42
What drugs are you on?

Alt to charge 100% HA HA
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Follow Up By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:36

Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:36
Blue, obviously you don't yet understand the written English word.

No-where in this thread have I stated an Alternator WILL charge a battery 100%

Please read my post again .... relevant section copy/pasted for you below.

"Even when you pull into a shopping centre car park, for the time you are actually shopping, the Solar panel will probably not charge the battery that much either, because it's been charged by the Alternator on the way from where you were, to the shops and -HOPEFULLY- it's fully charged, unless it's only a wet cell battery"

Blue, I stated the following-> "and HOPEFULLY it's fully charged, unless it's only a wet cell battery"

What that means in English is:
We HOPE, MAYBE, POSSIBLY or there is a strong CHANCE that the battery COULD be fully charged !!

It definitely does NOT state the battery WILL be fully charged, only that the desire, wish or HOPE that the battery is fully charged.

Blue, as I said, ASK QUESTIONS if you want to learn, or post ANSWERS for those who do ask questions, assuming of course you know the correct answers, and by reading your original posts I don't think that's very likely :-)

Mainey...






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Reply By: blue one - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:47

Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 12:47
If But Maybe hopefully

LMAO
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Follow Up By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 13:03

Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 13:03
Blue,
Yes, I'm sure most reasonable people watching this thread are "Laughing their A*** off" too :-))

Man you just gotta get over the fact you can't read or associate the written word with the obvious meaning, 'maybe' or is it 'hopefully' you will watch and learn 'cause I'm dam sure your not here to impart any reasonable knowledge based on your questions and your attitude so far.
But, 'maybe' or is it 'hopefully' you will still have a nice day :-))



Blue,
just a quick question, if you bought a 'brand new' 4x4 and the Alternator could 0NLY PARTIALLY charge the battery, as you have claimed, to just 80% of it's RECOMMENDED capacity, what would you do ??

{ I gotta watch this thread, as I'm waiting for a reply to my post id 537486 above...what's your excuse }



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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Monday, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:15

Monday, Dec 17, 2007 at 10:15
just a thought if solar panels did a better job at charging than an alternator wouldnt they fit them instead??
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Reply By: blue one - Monday, Dec 17, 2007 at 06:50

Monday, Dec 17, 2007 at 06:50
Who needs a cuddle.

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