Does anyone run a microwave on an inverter?
Submitted: Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 16:34
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Member - Mary W (VIC)
When solo travelling and sleeping in the vehicle I carry a microwave so when stopping anywhere with 240 available i am able to have a meal heated in 2 mins ,a hot cup of coffee in 1 min.Heat up the wheat sack to warm the bed etc.
Just thinking that if one could use an inverter one could have these little luxuries off the beaten track.
I guess you would have to run the engine to provide sufficient power but it is all achieved so quickly
Is this feasible or just "pie in the sky"
Reply By: Member -Dodger - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 16:54
Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 16:54
Mickey waves use too much power to run from an inverter.
EG. and this is a rough figure, Divide the watts of your m/wave by 12 and that is roughly the amps you would draw from your battery. 600watts divided by 12 = 50 amps one hell of a draw from any battery. and you would need at least a 1000watt inverter. Very exy.
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Follow Up By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 17:09
Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 17:09
there are 12 volt ones available Have seen them in caravans.
try Camec or other caravan suppliers Seem to remember they werent cheap though
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Sunday, Nov 18, 2007 at 09:14
Sunday, Nov 18, 2007 at 09:14
not cheap from a
shop --- got
mine off ebay -- 1200 w $143.00 + delivery
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=280169903437&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT&ih=018
and before you say it -- you get what you pay for .. yeh yeh i know -- i have a list of things i have bought that i would normally pay 5 -10 times more for in a
shop that are still running 2 years later INC a chainsaw 60 cc inch 18 inch bar i got for $150.00 ( equivalent store bought $600 +) generators - Motor bike jackets list is long ...... only had one bad product so far but was returned the money !
most recent - new battery for the cam corder - locally bought - $99.00 from(ebay) hong kong - $12.00 + $20 delivery
well you can look at my feedback to see what i have bought and what i paid ..
Boc
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Reply By: Jimbo from Best Off Road - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 17:18
Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 17:18
Most microwaves these days have an output power of 1000 watts. They have an input
well above that so you would need a 2000 watt inverter to run one.
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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 21:50
Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 21:50
why do some people leave home? bleep in microwave?
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Reply By: Member - Clive G (NZ) - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 18:52
Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 18:52
Hi Mary.
I have a Sharp microwave in my
Kimberley Karavan. It's about 800-850 watt output and it runs just fine on a 1800 watt true sine wave inverter (not cheap). _Affordable_Storage_Drawers.aspx about 50amps so you would need to have the motor running on fast idle at least, unless you have a good size battery bank. If you are prepared to spend the money then the idea is very feasible. The 12 volt Microwave might be a better option (saves buying an inverter), they draw about 70 amps. Have seen them at "The 12volt Shop" in
Perth. Also in
Sydney I believe.
Regards. CliveG (NZ)
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Reply By: Fazz - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 20:30
Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 20:30
What did we do before microwaves??????
Should they really be part of a caravan??????
Cheers
Fazz
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Reply By: Member - Mary W (VIC) - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 20:45
Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 20:45
thanks for the input-Perhaps should just add the honda E2 at least wouldn't be running long enough for anyone to whinge about the noise!!!
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Reply By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 23:18
Saturday, Nov 17, 2007 at 23:18
Mary, have a Karavan the same as Clive above, same specs but more
battery power in the older ones. Cooked rice one niight on the inverter for 8 minutes and it seemed to take a fair punch out of the batteries. 800w microwave, but the other option is a 12v one as said they are availaable
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Follow Up By: Member - Clive G (NZ) - Sunday, Nov 18, 2007 at 06:01
Sunday, Nov 18, 2007 at 06:01
Hi John.
Interesting. So far I've only used
mine for reheating coffee and like, so short runs. I'll go out and try it on a longer run, say 15mins, and see what happens.
Regards. Clive.
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Moses - Sunday, Nov 18, 2007 at 07:06
Sunday, Nov 18, 2007 at 07:06
G'day Clive, I think I wasn't actually paying a lot of attention to the
battery power at the time and as we know it takes longer to get the charge back in after we use the power. I wish the meter was in a better place to read it, than it is. I am over 190cm so it is difficult to see down there as
battery power is a major focus.
I have been amazed how much punch I can put in with the 80w solar panel for the daily maintenance though at the top end.
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Reply By: greggu - Sunday, Nov 18, 2007 at 13:16
Sunday, Nov 18, 2007 at 13:16
hi mary i have 12 v samsung microwave that we use off the patrols dual batts pulls about 40 to 50 % of batt charge roughly to
cook up two microwave meals for about 10 mins each - good way to go when you tired and its dark and you want to go to bed quickly - cost me about $650 from a glascraft marine supplier in
brisbane an few years back and of course you do need dual batts or an extra battery of some sort - i charge up the batt next morning while driving or with a honda 10ei generator if camped for a few days - suggest you have a look at one
see you greg
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Follow Up By: Member - Mary W (VIC) - Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 12:47
Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 12:47
Thanks Greg
Wondering how the microwave is connected?Direct to battery with clamps/ciggy lighter/Anderson plug?What size wire is involved and how big a fuse needed.As I already have an anderson plug 50amp fused connection to the rear of the vehicle perhaps this could be utilised to run the microwave.It is connected to aux battery
Cheers,
mary
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Follow Up By: greggu - Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 21:32
Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 21:32
hi mary re my 12 v microwave i have about 2 x 4 metres of heavy duty starter cable about 12 + mm thick can buy from a marine
shop and i connect direct to the battery terminals you may be able to use a large anderson plug the 80 amp job but not the smaller 50 amp anderson plug as the wires to the anderson plug would need to be very large at least 12mm and probably 20 mm to avoid voltage drop over the length of the car - the shorter the cable run to the battery the better - i store the micro wave in aan wooden box in the back of the patrol and sit it on the back
seat or on a
camp table next to the car to get the shortest cable run i can to the dual batt in the engine bay - but the MW is a litte heavy to move about for a lady.
however for me that set up works very
well - but you could carry an auxillary dual battery wired up in the rear of your vehicle if you wanted to and just hook directly to that
see you greg
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Reply By: Member - Mainey (wa) - Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 02:29
Monday, Nov 19, 2007 at 02:29
Mary
Not a problem - if done correctly... as for the "pie in the sky"
put it into the microwave instead, as they taste better when cooked.
If you only use the microwave for the times you have stated above 2 or 3 mins, then you first need to know the capacity of the Microwave and get an Inverter that is better than equivalent to it, and add 10% to be sure.
Battery power loss will be (almost) negligible if the battery system is reasonable for the times you have stated.
You can run the engine to actually charge the Aux battery WHILE you
cook the meal and for a few minutes extra if you are worried about Aux
battery power loss.
Don't settle for a cheap brand as it will not be as efficient as a better quality built product.
ALL 'quality'
inverters state their performance ratings on their paperwork, if it's NOT there, forget it, look at another brand.
ASK QUESTIONS of the inverter supplier and tell him/her why you NEED the inverter, that way you (should) know it will do the job for you.
Only talk to a "specialist" - someone who has them in stock that you can look at, touch and ask questions - then look at a second
shop for confirmation of the advice offered to you.
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