Dirty Fuel
Submitted: Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:38
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Garbutt
I have been having an occasional problem with my HiLux over the last 12 months or so. After driving a rough road/track, I would have symptoms of fuel starvation, and occasionally when at its worst, I would loose heaps of power to the point where 40 - 50 kmh was top speed and the engine warning light would come on on the dash. Took it to the local mechanic, who at first couldn;t work it out. He took it to the local Toyota dealer who put the car on their diagnostic gear which told them the injector pump was stuffed. Fortunately he didn't think that was right, and sought advice from the local diesel expert, Chris Philp. They took off the fuel line into the filter and blew back through it,
clearing a blockage in the
tank pickup. It happened to me a couple more times and each time I cleared it by blowing back through the fuel line into the
tank. By now convinced it was something blocking the pick up, I drained the
tank and flushed it several times. A lot of metallic bits came out, mostly stuck to the magnetic drain plug, but also a lump of fibrous nylonny stuff, which is what I suspect was the problem. Hopefully all cured now, but local Toyota dealer wanted to sell me a new injector pump. Thank goodness for decent local mechanics unaffiliated with dealers.
GB
Reply By: Willem - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:42
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:42
If you have filled up out of jerrycans in the past then that fibrous nylonny stuff could have come from the jerry.
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Follow Up By: Garbutt - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:48
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:48
I did think of that Willem, but I have only used brand new plastic jerries, however still could be that, I am sure that was the problem, but there was also a lot of small metallic flakey bits which must have come from a bowser somewhere. Since I fitted the long range
tank I have only put in about 4 jerries of fuel, still it only needs one I suppose. I just looked on the radar too, rain coming your way, hopefully you let some past to get to us!!
GB
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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 21:15
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 21:15
The temp has dropped considerably but the clouds don't seem to be rain bearing. I too had a look at the radar. Maybe later tonite we may get some precipitation
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Reply By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:49
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:49
I use to have a sierra and I had a similar prob after i had it for a week. I eventually pulled the fuel
tank out and literally pulled it apart and fount that the inside of the
tank was corroding away....go figure!!
Good to see someone is good. There is a local lpg guy that charged us $550 to fix something and that wasnt even the prob - he was certain that it was......every time i see him i could knock hi block off..!!
Laura
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Follow Up By: Garbutt - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:53
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 20:53
dead right Kiwi, if I had taken it to Toyota dealer, they would have fitted a new injector pump for around $1800 and it wouldn't have made any diff!!!!
GB
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Reply By: Allan JJ - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 21:17
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 21:17
How old is the long range
tank?
Did this happen after the instalation or before?
Some brands are not made from coated steel, this could cause a problem.
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Follow Up By: Garbutt - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 21:23
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 21:23
The
tank is about 18 months old, I had no probs before with the standard, but almost useless 65 litre
tank. And its diesel so I can't see rust in the
tank being a problem, I'm sure I must have picked up dirty fuel somewhere. Anyway, its hopefully fixed and the main point of the post was to praise the local guys who helped me avoid large expensive and unnecessary repair bills.
GB
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 17:51
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 17:51
My long range
tank is 20 years old, now in it's 2nd vehicle.
Have had internal rust problems, even with diesel.
Picked up some dirty fuel a few times now, and it most probably had some
water in it, hence rust.
Got into the habit of flushing the
tank every couple of years, or when the first filter starts clogging.
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Reply By: Member - Jiarna (NT) - Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 23:55
Tuesday, Nov 20, 2007 at 23:55
Hi GB
That's dealers for you. They start with the most expensive possibility first, then work backwards to find out it was a $2.50 part that was faulty!! With a bit of luck, you'll
fork out over $2K for a $10 repair - not a bad scam if it works. I've been caught once or twice, but now found someone I can trust for the few jobs I can't do myself.
The beauty of the injector pump replacement scam (for the dealer that is) is that they can resell the perfectly good one they took out for near new price, or maybe more, so it's pure profit at your expense.
Cheers
John
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:45
Wednesday, Nov 21, 2007 at 10:45
Looks like you found the problem ok.
I had a stutter at about 85 kph in my Troopy and thought fuel blockage or pump. Good advice from an old hand - cleaned the injectors - all better now.
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