Canning Stock Route Feedback

1. Can anyone comment on good tag along companies for the Canning Stock Route.
2. I've heard that spinifex can cause fires in petrol vehicles. Does anyone have any first hand experience of fires or how to prevent them.
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 18:11

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 18:11
Lee,

Yes and Yes.

Great Divide Tours, www.4wd.net.au and I have not had a spinifex fire but have seen what they can do.




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Follow Up By: Willem - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 18:55

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 18:55
I have a molten part of that vehicle on my mantlepiece.....lol
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:29

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:29
Funny that, so do I Willem. Had to use a piece of molten slag to chock out the bullbar mount last year. Once home I mounted it on a plaque and made it the "Bush Mechanic's" award at the end of the trip.

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Follow Up By: John S (NSW) - Thursday, Nov 29, 2007 at 23:26

Thursday, Nov 29, 2007 at 23:26
Hey Wayne,

Found this video on youtube - http://youtube.com/watch?v=2OyFwQSogek&feature=related

Your a celebrity now :-)

PS - I still have your 'Triton emergency engine mount'. I'll remember to pack it for the next Vic High Country :-P
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:10

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 07:10
John,

That was taken back in 2005 on my first trip on the CRS.

The 75 Series did the trip twice but I would have to say that the 78Series is a lot better on the CSR.

Hopefully we will not have to use the emergency engine mount on the next trip, but bring it along just in case.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: LeeT - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:42

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:42
Thanks form the info Wayne.
Regards
Lee
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Reply By: Crackles - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 18:53

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 18:53
Some cars are more likely to catch spinifex than others. Regular inspection is the main way to prevent fires although some remove underbody bash plates that can gather the grass. Spinifex is not always an issue on the Canning particually if you stick to the main tracks. When the grass does catch fire a regular powder extinguisher wont always put out the flames for long as they tend to reignite. Water in a spray bottle seems to be the recognised way to cool it down enough to put it out properly.
We had a low slung petrol Suzuki start smoking and needed a bent piece of wire to hook the grass out. It was caught in behind an exhaust bracket.
Cheers Craig......
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Follow Up By: LeeT - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:43

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:43
Thanks for the info Craig
Lee
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Reply By: disco driver - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 19:22

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 19:22
Lee,
Google "Global Gypsies" here in WA.
They've been in business for a long time and have a reputation for quality tours. (Crap firms don't last long)

No personal experience but word of mouth reports are good.

"No connection....... etc"

Disco
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Follow Up By: ExplorOz Team - Michelle - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:02

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:02
If you use the Directory on this site under Tours - you can support the business that advertise their Tour business on ExplorOz. Global Gypsies Pty Ltd is one of them.
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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 21:44

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 21:44
We were lucky, did the CSR in 2005 with a tag along with Ronnie & Eric Gard but they are not doing it any more as I understand so if I was to do it again using a tag-along (and if you are not a seasoned traveller in those parts the best way to go is by tag-along) I would choose Global Gypsies. Haven't used them but once again is word of mouth, however we did meet Jeremy once at a Camping show and he did seem a genuine person who knew a lot about the country.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 21:45

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 21:45
We were lucky, did the CSR in 2005 with a tag along with Ronnie & Eric Gard but they are not doing it any more as I understand so if I was to do it again using a tag-along (and if you are not a seasoned traveller in those parts the best way to go is by tag-along) I would choose Global Gypsies. Haven't used them but once again is word of mouth, however we did meet Jeremy once at a Camping show and he did seem a genuine person who knew a lot about the country.

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Follow Up By: LeeT - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:44

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:44
Thanks for responses all.
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:34

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:34
If you're travelling a little later in the season, it's not too much of a worry as the streams of vehicles that have travelled the track knock the spinifex down. If early, you'll have to watch it and also put some form of protection screen across the front of the radiator to prevent it filling with grass seeds. The 5 litre pump spray that you would spray weeds in the garden with ($8 at Bunnings) does the job for additional peace of mind but regularly cleaning out is the only sure method.

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Follow Up By: LeeT - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:47

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:47
Thanks Mick, I've been told shade cloth is the way to go, although i'm a bit worried that it might overheat engine causing more trouble than help. Anything better than shade cloth recommended?
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 17:59

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 17:59
Lee,

I used flyscreen from the hardware store. I'd say that it's as good as any but I think shadeclothe might be a bit more robust. If you cover your bullbar rather than plug your grill, you'll have no problems with overheating. You are not travelling fast enough on the canning for airflow to be an issue anyway, your engine fans are providing most of the cooling. The only thing I'd reccomend is if you have a bullbar, pay additional attention to the area across the front of the base where the mounts are (The angled "bashplate" type area that usually has slots in it). Those slots allow the majority of the grass seeds in and they then blow up into the radiator.

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Follow Up By: LeeT - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 18:18

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 18:18
Thanks a lot Mick.
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Reply By: mechpete - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:44

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 20:44
I did a tag along with Russel Guest down the CSR in the early 90,s and they were very good ,
also the 5lt pump bottle is the best option ,and a piece of fencing wire to pick out the build up . also a blind made up of shade cloth that hangs down far enough to stop the spinafex from being sucked up in the radiator from under the engine.
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Follow Up By: LeeT - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:48

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:48
Thanks Mechpete, is there any partiucular grade of shade cloth recommended, ie more open weave or more closed weave?
Regards
Lee
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Follow Up By: Member - Scooby (WA) - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 13:59

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 13:59
Hi Lee,
We used 90% shadecloth on an 80 Series, Hilux and Terican.
The Terican diesel did overheat, and when they get hot they shutdown to idle. The Toyotas no problems.
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Follow Up By: LeeT - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 18:20

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 18:20
Thanks Scooby. I reckon I understand it better now.
Regards
Lee
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Reply By: Member - Fourplayfull - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 21:55

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 21:55
Check direct4wd at Alice Springs - Joel Flemming is a regular on that run - takes ct,s if it is a good set up .
CheersJohn
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Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 22:42

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 22:42
Lee T

It's unlikely that anyone is going to agree with this response.

I've travelled a few miles through raw Spinifex over the years, getting around and shooting. Never had an issue.

Where I have had problems, is immature Ant hills hidden in the Spinifex. No problems if there's only a few of them, but if the buggars are within a couple of metres of each other it really starts to knock the car around.

I take the point that some cars are pretty busy at the bottom end, and care should be exercised, but don't let concerns about Spinifex stop your trip.

I'll drop you a line tomorrow about a fella and his missus from SA who take tours up the Canning.

This particular fella got his arse into gear and restored a number of Wells along the Canning. Far as I know no other operater has done the same.

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Kim
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Follow Up By: equinox - Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 23:08

Tuesday, Nov 27, 2007 at 23:08
I hit one on my last big trip - shook the bigilies out of me and the 4WD. They are very hard to spot sometimes.

Cheers

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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:51

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:51
You are obviously unaware of the work over 25 years that Eric and Ronnie Gard have done on the Canning. I don't think there would be too many other people out there who know as much or have done as much work to get the Canning up and running so that people like us can traverse it. They are the authors of the book "Canning Stock Route" of which I have the 3rd edition.
As mentioned in above follow-up we were lucky enough to do the tag-along with them in 2005 and the knowledge that they had between was unreal.

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Follow Up By: Member - Dunworkin (WA) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:55

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 01:55
OOps, should read ' between them was unreal' Am having puter problems tonight


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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:23

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:23
Dunworkin

Ooops, forgot about Ron. He gave us quite a bit of advice when we were trying to set up the 2006 Canning Stock Route Re-enactment.

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Follow Up By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:34

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:34
Damn. Should be Eric, not Ron.

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Follow Up By: LeeT - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:50

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 10:50
Kim, thanks for useful info.
Regards
Lee
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Reply By: Member - Kim M (VIC) - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:31

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2007 at 17:31
Lee T

Here are the contact details:

Treks across Australia.
Ken and Sue Maidment.
53931273 or 0419032418.
www.treksacrossaustralia.

I think he my have a tour in June 2008, but you better check that.

Regards

Kim
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Reply By: mechpete - Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 14:04

Friday, Nov 30, 2007 at 14:04
doesn,t matter to much , aslo put a piece of fly wire over the grill to stop the same in the core of the radiator ,once it has got in to the core its near on impoosible to get out .
cheers mechpete.
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