Simplicity suspension + $4000?

Submitted: Sunday, Dec 02, 2007 at 21:40
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We are looking at a new van and have been quoted $4000 to upgrade from standard beam axles to a simplicity suspension.

Advantages - better ride on rough roads. We want to get off the tar a fair bit so this could be a good thing.

Disadvantages - $4000 extra, and more things to go wrong - harder to fix.

Any comments greatly appreciated.

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Reply By: TroopyTracker - Sunday, Dec 02, 2007 at 23:05

Sunday, Dec 02, 2007 at 23:05
Tell them they're dreamin'

I'm not sure your serious though......?
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Reply By: fisho64 - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 00:20

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 00:20
they even reckon it reduces fuel consumption on their website. Probably cos you wont be able to afford to go on holiday anymore!
The pic looks like thos e other independant systems but with a leafspring not coil?
You could do 3 LC80 suspension upgrades with foamcell shocks and new coils for that money?
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 01:50

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 01:50
Simplicity differs from other independent suspension systems in that it is load sharing.

Have not been able to locate their web site. Can you please post the URL?

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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 02:19

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 02:19
http://www.roadstar.com.au/specialfeatures.asp
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:01

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:01
Thanks for that URL but it is only the web site of a user - not the suspension manufacturer, they are in Bunderberg.

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Follow Up By: fisho64 - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:12

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:12
"In a nutshell, our unique Simplicity Independent Suspension System has been designed to share the load over both wheels, reducing impacts and making your towing experience as pleasurable as possible!"

"It’s typical of Roadstar to invest a considerable amount of time in a suspension system that is all about safety, comfort and better value."

sorry, the website mentions their "unique" system and how much time they have invested in "their" system so I just assumed it was "their" system!

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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:23

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 11:23
They can claim it to be unique (one of a kind) in that it is the only metal spring independent suspension that provides load sharing, but others do equip their vans with it.

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Reply By: QLD Kev & Darkie - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 06:50

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 06:50
Going by the link posted above, I have that system on my Offraod trailer. My trailer has a shocker included as well. The trailer sits well behind the vehicle with whatever weight that I carry.
The cost for one axle was about $2000 so $4000 for 2 axles isn't that bad.

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Reply By: dougie 41 - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 07:37

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 07:37
HI jdbb,
I have recently taken delivery of a new EVERNEW c/van
and had the simplicity 2500kg suspension fitted.
The cost was only $1500 extra.That is tandem.
Did you contact simplicity themselves?
Their ph no.is 0394693043.Hope this is of some help.
Cheers Doug.
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Reply By: Wizard1 - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:29

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 09:29
JDBB,

Out of interest, what brand of van are you getting?
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Reply By: Member - Kevin J (QLD) - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 10:01

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 10:01
jdbb,

Don't know about the cost factor as our Galaxy off road came with the simplicity tandem but what I can tell you is that the suspension works extremly well on the corrugated gravel and two track black soil roads of western Queensland.
We travel these roads extensively and so far everything arrives just where it was put. Makes light of the washouts and gullies providing that you drive for the conditions.
If the LC100 clears the centre then definately no problems with the van.
You may be able to check the pricing as suggested but from the practical side I recommend it.

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Reply By: Baz & Pud (Tassie) - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 14:44

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 14:44
When we ordered our new Concept c/v we requested that it be fitted with simplicity suspension, took delivery May last year and several weeks later dragged it across the Gibb River Road which at the time would have been the worst road we have ever had a van on. At the end of the day no probs with the van at all, every thing stayed in place, would recommend the suspension all the time.

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Reply By: Member - Mick M (QLD) - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 19:13

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 19:13
most chasiss ar made in victoria, preston chasiss or g and s chassis i asked them the cost diffence between the the standard and simplicity dual system ,which in 2001 was 800 dollors i went back to the caravan dealer and told them thats what id pay, they are still making the same profit either way,my advice is find the difference and find a dealer hows agreeable regards mick
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Reply By: Member - Mick M (QLD) - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 19:13

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 19:13
most chasiss ar made in victoria, preston chasiss or g and s chassis i asked them the cost diffence between the the standard and simplicity dual system ,which in 2001 was 800 dollors i went back to the caravan dealer and told them thats what id pay, they are still making the same profit either way,my advice is find the difference and find a dealer hows agreeable regards mick
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Reply By: Member - Mick M (QLD) - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 19:14

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 19:14
most chasiss are made in victoria, preston chasiss or g and s chassis i rang them direct and asked them the cost diffence between the standard and simplicity dual system ,which in 2001 was 800 dollors for me, i went back to the caravan dealer and told them thats what id pay, they are still making the same profit either way,my advice is find the difference and find a dealer whos agreeable regards mick
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Follow Up By: NikNoff - Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 21:37

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 21:37
[quote]Disadvantages - $4000 extra, and more things to go wrong - harder to fix.[quote/]



Dunno who told you this fallacy, Simplicity a true load sharing suspension with exceptional wheel travel, as long as the springs have the correct weight rating for your van and you check the center bolt and pivot block occasionally, as part of your general maintainance then whats to go wrong?

Still beam axles have been around for years, ultimately the choice is yours :-)
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Reply By: Bill from Custom Boat Loaders- Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 22:05

Monday, Dec 03, 2007 at 22:05
We have this suspension on our 21' Compass van and have travelled 45,000 in past 18 months over a lot of terrain including 800ks of the Savannah Way from Borroloola to Burketown - some of which was pretty rough. The van has never moved or missed a beat and can thoroughly recommend it.

You usually pay for what you get!

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