Tandem or Single axle Caravan suspension

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 12:52
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Would like to read others experiances with single and tandem axled caravans, both beam and independant suspension types.
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Reply By: Member - Lewis K (QLD) - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 13:06

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 13:06
Gday Bob,

I am no expert but I for one would never buy a caravan without independent suspension. The beam suspension gives a much harsher ride and even though you are not in the van when it is being towed, the long term effect is for much more damage to the van.

The question of single or duel axle is one that starts with the question of weight. Again from a long term point of view, a heavy van, perhaps over 1500kg, will always suffer from a single axle. You also have things such as tyres and bearings to consider. The two tyres on the road on any one side will also act as a load sharing device simply because if one tyre drops into a hole, the other will take some of the extra load of the van, rather than have all of the weight of the van drop with the single tyre that is now in the hole.

One disadvantage of duel axle of course is that they make the van much less maneuverable, particularly off road. It is much harder to get a duel axle van to turn, particularly when trying to reverse, than a single axle.

Hope this is of some help.
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Follow Up By: Bob in the Bush - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 19:02

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 19:02
What a wealth of information, thank you. We sold our last C'van 5 years ago with the plan to campervan around but found it to crampt(?) so we are in the market for a 16 to 19 foot with a shower and etc. Then away from Collie WA anti clockwise for christmas in Nowra and 2008 at Tea Gardens then get lost and revisit all the spots hurriedly seen during 20+ years in the armed forces on leave or on transfer.
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Reply By: Jimbo - VIC - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 13:45

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 13:45
This was discussed at length on the Jayco Forum a while back.

Everyone who had owned both (and these are the only ones to take notice of) supported tandems as much more stable to tow.
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Reply By: Baz & Pud (Tassie) - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 13:53

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 13:53
We have a friend with a single axel van and on rough roads it bounces all over the place, where as ours (being dual/independent suspension) doesn't move. Totally agree with the above comments.

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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 14:07

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 14:07
Bob
Read this old post from last year about the benefits of 2 axles

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 14:10

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 14:10
Sorry Bob
Wrong thread

try this one

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Reply By: Notso - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 15:26

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 15:26
I've had the pleasure to tow both types of van. A single axle Golf with independent suspension, and a Viscount with dual beam axles.

The golf towed beautifully and although I think it was at it's limit as far as weight was concerned I felt totally confident towing it no matter what the road surface was like.

I now tow the Viscount dual axle and find it is an excellent vehicle to tow. There is a bit more jiggling in the van as we notice more movement in the packed goods.

All up I think it is a slightly better vehicle to tow than the Golf as there is less for and aft pitching with the dual axle than with a single. Other than that either one would suit me fine.
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Follow Up By: Bob in the Bush - Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:42

Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:42
Our old C/van was a 1983 Viscount that had been converted from a single axle to a twin beam and the towing was really good compared to single axle models we had hired for trying out purposes. The latest query was to get an update of newer vans and idependant suspensions. Thanks to all the feed back am pretty well set on idepedant twin axle, thanks for all the good news.
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Reply By: Crackles - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 19:10

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 19:10
Bob the number of axles is mostly just a requirement to carry the weight of the van, set up correctly both handle fine. Solid or independent is a price versus ride issue, your choice dependant on the type of roads you expect to travel on. No point spending thousands of dollars on twin axle independent if you're only driving down the highway with a 1400kg Van.
Some single axle vans do tend to sway and bounce slightly more but can be minimised with level riders. They are far more manoeuvrable particularly when pushing into a site or just to pull the tow hitch across to hook up to the car.
Tandem axles are of course dearer, heavier and have twice as many tyres, brakes & bearings to maintain.
If you are doing any minor road towing then independent suspension will be worth the money spent both minimising axle hop and giving the van a smoother ride which in turn will lessen damage to the Van & contents.
Cheers Craig............
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Follow Up By: Bob in the Bush - Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:45

Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:45
Thanks Cackles, see my remarks above, so the search in on! See yu on the road.
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Reply By: Motherhen - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 22:43

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2007 at 22:43
My Rooster insisted on this one.

Our previous van was a small single axled wind-up.

Advantage - could spin it round by hand if stuck in a tight spot.

Disadvantages; stuff was tossed from one side of the cupboards to the other (we travel off the bitumen frequently), damage to fittings, milk bottles and cartons leaking from the bottom from the bouncing. I wouldn't even try and take eggs! His reasoning had more to do with safety in case of a blowout or losing a wheel, and general stability of the unit. There is also less thrust up and down on your tow hitch with the van stable on dual axles.

We now have a tandem axled caravan, and everything rides smooth. I am well and truly convinced.
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Follow Up By: Bob in the Bush - Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:52

Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:52
Hi Motherhen and Rooster. Yep been there, was posted from Townville to Edinbourgh SA and chose to go via Camoweel/3 ways and down the centre in 1980. Ever tried to make scrambled eggs out of a carton full of broken bum nuts or getting the right balance of coffee and sugar when they are mixed together or picking a can to open when all the labels have come off. See yu on the road.
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Follow Up By: Motherhen - Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 23:15

Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 23:15
Hi Bob

Our Bushtracker has the Simplicity suspension, which is the most versatile. Made by NP Hauffe in Melbourne.
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Follow Up By: Bob in the Bush - Sunday, Dec 09, 2007 at 12:28

Sunday, Dec 09, 2007 at 12:28
Good Morning Motherhen, My old c/van was converted by a mob in Adelaide, I got it done on the cheap in return for allowing them to show it at the Adelaide caravan Expo that year. The only cost to me was the extra axle assembly, wished I could do that again!!! We are off to the yards over the next few weeks and will spend sometime laying down looking under things no doubt. Will look at used vans with independant suspensions mainly for tyre wear and what if any adjustments can be made for tracking (cast/camber). Looking forward to all the fun.
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Reply By: Alan S (WA) - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:40

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 12:40
Bob

I'm interested in this as the general consensus here is that the tandem gives a better ride. However a few years ago i had boat that was on a tandem trailer and the trailer was rusted and needed replacing. I replaced it with a single axlle trailer.

The ride improved significantly with the single axle. It was like the trailer was two tightly sprung with doubles and each axle was fighting the other. I never towed it off road so i cant compare off road performance.

Tandems although harder to swing around by hand are also easier to back for the same reason.

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Reply By: shameem - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 21:43

Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 21:43
Hello Bob,
Check out Threads 49225 and 49945. These will provide you with alot of important information. I 'balanced' the views expressed and decided on a single on grounds of lack of towing experience, cost, ease of parking, lighter weight and towing costs. You must get proper weight distribution hitch and set this up correctly. So far I feel that I may have made the right choice. There are some great advice out there and it pays to be well informed.

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Follow Up By: Bob in the Bush - Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:55

Saturday, Dec 08, 2007 at 11:55
Hi shameem, thanks for the info, see my other replys above.
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