Letting the turbo cool down?.

Submitted: Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 21:58
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Turbo timers are fitted to many engines that are in heavy duty applications, trucks, earthmoving equipment, etc., but with smaller engines it seems a matter of personal choice, There never seems to be a real concern from Jap manufactures about letting turbos cool down before shut down, Ie.. watch the mums pull up and park at shopping centres!!, in a diesel 4by, the last thing on their mind is a hot turbo!!!....lol.

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Member - Kiwi B - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 22:19

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 22:19
Axle,

How many of these turbo's are hot enough to need run-down after crawling around town then idling into the car-park.

Lotsa differing info/views on this topic??
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 22:39

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 22:39
How hot are they?, Well thats the thing ,They run at incredible speed but i think if clean oil is servicing them you don't seem to hear of to many problems..
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi B - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:01

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:01
Axle,

The incedible speed and temps are only there when working. Diddling round town etc. don't generate these conditions, so, no problemo. Also an increasing number of these units are becoming water-cooled, further reducing the need for run-down.

It's interesting to read some of the run-down times recommeded for heavy transport, they're quite brief.
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 22:24

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 22:24
I fitted a Bogaard turbo timer to the Patrol only to find that I can't leave the car idling by itself and cooling as the Cobra car alarm will not activate until the motor has stopped running. If you leave it with the stock standard Nissan imobiliser, not a worry. Fit an alarm to protect all your gear and you'll be staying with the car until the turbo has cooled anyway.

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Follow Up By: Shaker - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:03

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:03
The alarm may well be doing you a favour, as you can get booked for leaving the vehicle unattended with the engine running.
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Reply By: Blaze - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:23

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:23
I believe most insurance companies, well the ones I have spoken to, you void your insurance if you have timer fitted, I believe its in case some joy ridder jumps in and drives off. Of course the thing will stop but with the possibility of damage by a crash with another vehicle or damage by thief jumping out and leaving the the vehicle rolling off down the road..

I know when I had a Turbo Timer I got caught a few times turning the rig off then thinking I forgot something, drive out my other driveway onto the highway and the vehicle dies....not fun
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Follow Up By: Member - Bucky (VIC) - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:30

Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:30
Stuff the Insurance Company's, as you know they will do anything to void a warranty.

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Reply By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:26

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:26
Just more things to go wrong, I have done 550000ks in my last 2 turbo patrols and no problems.. My opinion only.. Michael
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Reply By: Motherhen - Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:54

Thursday, Dec 06, 2007 at 23:54
The EGT gauge is a bonus for idling down. You can be sure it has cooled before turning off; this time can vary according to the conditions. I'd choose the gauge over the timer.
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Reply By: rockpiglet - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:03

Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 02:03
With a fleet of heavy vehicles fitted with turbos I only have a timer on vehicles over 9litres, and it's 1min idle down around town and light haul, 2min when 25t to 38ton.
I have turbos that have done over 650 k and over 1 mill.
No timers fitted.
The last thing I'd put on a vehicle traveling in remote areas is a turbo timer. As stated above just more to go wrong.
It's not the cooling of the turbo before shut down, its the hot turbo still spinning with no oil pressure that will cause the damage.
Some people (not all) fit a turbo timer but will start their vehicle and drive, before the engine oil is heated and at the right viscosity to properly lubricate the turbo bearings in the first place. Why bother with a timer. When the damage can be done at the start of the trip not the end.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 08:31

Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 08:31
Not so much personal choice - most people are doing what the manufacturer recommends.

Mine says no idling time required for normal city driving; 20secs for 80kph; 1 minute for 100kph and 2 minutes for >100kph.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:49

Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 12:49
Most of the time you would have backed off to 60 for a while before shutting down.
only time Ive idled a turbo down was at the Kumarina road house
140kph to dead stop in 15 seconds or whatever on a 45 deg day so i thought i should idle it down even though its a work vehicle
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Reply By: Member - barry F (NSW) - Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:47

Friday, Dec 07, 2007 at 18:47
We recently bought our first diesel, a Mazda BT50, it is not fitted with an idle down timer. When I asked the Mazda people was this procedure necessary their answer was that generally speaking "no"
However, if towing a heavy load such as a van, & you stopped at a roadside rest stop after hwy speed, it wouldn't hurt to let it idle a bit, but didn't consider it necessary.
If going to a van park in a built up area his thoughts were that the slower travel speed in getting to the park was more than sufficient, if in fact needed at all in the first place. Hope this helps.
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