Locker and Compressor
Submitted: Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:33
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Blaze
Having just fitted a Air Locker to my vehicle using one of ARB's latest compressors I just wanted to check with anyone who uses this style of compressor.
The compressor has its own small air
tank for diff locks and a solonoid that controls the pressure. My unit engauges fine but every 2 minutes or so the compressor does a little burst of about 3 seconds. Is this normal or does it mean I have a leak somewhere??
Reply By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:44
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:44
Yup- definately a leak somewhere.
With our front locker engaged there is no leak- but when the rear is engaged the compressor activates. There is a small O ring in the diff. activation 'piston' that is the problem with
mine. If yours is just fitted, maybe a hose connection?? With the compressor running and switch activated- spray a bit of soapy
water around all the hose connections...
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Reply By: KSV. - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:57
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 09:57
Leak, guaranteed. I have same setup with small compressor and it holding both locks for more the 30 min – no problem. Apart of obvious as not tighten enough treads, mostly common leaks occurs inside diff itself. Test very simple. Connect line from diff to good (and here I mean really good) pressure gauge with valve and to compressor; pump system until it locks and close valve separate lock-line-gauge subsystem. It should stay locked virtually forever.
Cheers
Serg
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Reply By: ob - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:11
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:11
Blaze
If the leak is an external air line the old soapy
water trick on the connections works
well. If the leak is inside the diff housing there will be air coming out of the diff breather. Once again soapy
water
Cheers ob
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Reply By: Blaze - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:33
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:33
Thanks guys, Only problem here is you have comfirmed what I already thought it was...... I was secretly hoping that it was normal LOL
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:55
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 10:55
Wot a bugga !! Did you install it?? or is it a trip back to who ever??
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:51
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 12:51
Hi Signman,
Fitted locally (Repco Workshop), my bet is its at the compressor end though. I did a test run with the compressor to diff before connecting solonoid (compressor still had pressure switch fitted) this locked fine and of course I actually had to back off the thread on hose fitteing to the compressor to get it to unlock, so seems (heres hoping) that its at the compressor end.
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Reply By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 13:10
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 13:10
Blaze,
As others have said, try the soapy
water trick. Note too that the ends of the plastic hose MUST BE 100% square at the end where it pushes into the fitting/s.
My rig has air lines all over the place (about 6 "T" pieces, the air locker solenoid, 2 solenoids on the air horns, a
water trap, 2 air tanks and 3 Ryco snap fittings). Trying to find a small leak is a pain in the @RSE........
Recently I nearly tore my hair out and finally found that my 8 year old front locker's solenoid was faulty. It was not shutting off the air supply when in the disengaged state and that was making my steering unbearably difficult if I had the front hubs locked, even though the truck was in 2 wheel drive. New solenoid off ebay soon fixed that.....
Cheers,
Roachie (as you can see the lappy is okay, thanks for your advice)
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Follow Up By: Blaze - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 16:43
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 16:43
Gidday Roachie,
Good to know the Lappy survived.... As I said above I am hoping that its just the fitting into the ARB Compressor. Reason I believe it could be this is some computer tech fitted the Solenoid block at about 2am one morning and when the diff and compressor were fitted the thing would lock but wouldn't unlock without cracking the airline....(glad no one can see this except you) LOL
Anyway to make a short story long, jumped up and down with ARB and recieved a replacement, it was then that the fitting mistake was noticed :-)
When this solenoid was in back to front the diff stayed locked with out the compressor having to run at all, just the hassle of the damB thing not unlocking, so hopfully its that computer techies fault and he didn't fit the solenoid with a good seal....
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Reply By: Hoyks - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 15:09
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 15:09
I have the old model compressor that I have vehicle mounted and fitted the pressure switch to. All fittings have thread tape and I can find no obvious leak, but after 5 minutes it does a short run to re-pressurise. I suspect it is the way the
tank is sealed.
The
tank is so small that it only has to loose a little bit air to drop the pressure a significant amount.
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Follow Up By: KSV. - Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 18:02
Thursday, Dec 13, 2007 at 18:02
I still would suggest that you have a leak. I am using smallish compressor from ARB – it has been design for lockers only and have microscopically small receiver. Initially I thought to hook locks to bigger one, but they offer me smally for free and I recon it is good idea to have some redundancy. So my Mr. Small easy hold both lockers activated for more then 30 min. Leak can be inside diff, and if this is the case I would not worry about fixing it – too much trouble for nothing, do it next time you take diff off.
Cheers
Serg
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Follow Up By: V8 Troopie - Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 01:32
Friday, Dec 14, 2007 at 01:32
Re the old air
tank, it is only held by a sigle central screw!
mine came loose and it took a while to find that problem. Suggest you carefuly inspect the
tank seal and then apply screw lock to stop the screw loosening.
Klaus
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