Diesel v/s Petrol

It's a bleep poor price point, really is annoying, and on top of that they dish us up the worst Diesel in the world..! Then throw in the Bio Diesel makers that do not offer a price incentive for their product.! The whole thing sucks , no doubting, what are the alternatives..? Not sure..?

Dodger


I own a diesel and agree with you. The oil companies & Govt. are ripping us off.



Tjilpi

It is f#$%&*g ridiculous! Diesel cheaper to produce and diesel has a tad less tax then petrol, so WTF? Unless government starts to interfere we will see nothing good ahead. And government currently much more worried about lesbos’s and gays’s rights then about our rights! Funny enough I recon this situation has nothing to do to us using diesel 4WD (or other passenger cars) because we consume drop in the ocean, but rather something to do to trucks – they will fill at any price and pass cost to us.

Serg.

Having filled up in Perth this afternoon, I noticed I big difference in prices on the highway V's the out of way truck stop in the industrial area. 147.4 on the highway, this out is back by a supermarket chain. Independent, non supermaket chain, truck stop...141.3 with driveway service.

Since I have owned the TD, I have been going to the independent, and I feel as though I am helping to keep at least one person in a job, filling my car up.

Debbie

I still think diesel is priced for the huge consumption levels of the commercial market (where they can claim it on the Tax as an expense)....IE they pay less in the end....... as far as we private consumers are concerned ..... we can bugger off if we don't like it..... the volumes aren't a worry to the producers.

I think the fuel rebate dished out to transport,primary producers and industry plays a significant role in the pricing strategies. Whilst the diesel is cheaper to the major users preventing them from changing to other fuel forms in mass droves then the price will remain at these levels. I have read in other forums that the profits made on Diesel helps subsidise the discounting on petrol allowing the fuel companies to lower their margins slightly in an attempt to placate the masses.

You lot have got to be kiding me. Yes we get a rebate from the government for the diesel we buy,,,,then we bloody pay tax on it.
The vast,,,and i do mean vast, majority of us do not,,,,,,,,i'll say that again,,,,,,,,DO NOT get anything else. The new's/government/everybody else blame the rising cost of everything on transport costs,,,yet we don't see any extra in our earnings at the end of the month. Diesel pricing is set by god only knows who and we have to pay for it,,just like all the diesel users. The mega companies may get a few cents discount from the producer of the diesel,,,but the majoriity of us have to wear it.
When fuel cost for us are running at over 35% PER DAY, as they are now for many of us,,,we have to bear the cost out of our own pocket, which means we have less of a wage to live on. Combine this with ever increasing : rego/insurance/tyre/repairs/servicing/phonebills/repayments
and follow it up with rates that we are being paid today that are years old, and our wage drops even further.
For a transport operator,,the general rule is anything over 25% fuel cost means you are paying out of your own pocket just to survive. Combine this with all the other costs that heve gone up and we are only just scrapping by in many instances.

DERRR!! Now lets see.. A litre of diesel is $1.50 and a litre of petrol is $1.32... OK you get about 100km out of 11 litres of diesel and about 100km out of 18 litres of petrol.. Gee thats a hard one!!!!!

Dodger,
I think every diesel owners gets a little annoyed when they go to fill up, and notice that diesel is like you said, up to 20 cents a litre more than ULP. Especially as refinement costs are less for diesel fuel. Diesel these days is a clean product than it was years ago, but it doesn't cost that much to remove sulphur in the refining process. I can clearly remember back in the 90's that diesel was aways about 5 to 10 cents a litre cheaper than ULP and LP fuel.
The other factor that we have against us, is the diesel option going to cost more, servicings, and the stamp duty on the vehicle purchase.
The new 200 series Landcruiser, costs 10 grand more for the diesel, over the petrol. If you live in WA like I do, you would have to pay 6.5% stamp duty on purchase, along with luxury car tax.
The government want to reduce greenhouse gas and CO2 levels, but do not provide any incentive for people who purchase diesel or hybrid vehicles which are more efficient.
Personnel I would like to see some rebates, similar to what they have in Europe.

Dodger,
to add to the pain, the only outlet for bio diesel in Dubbo has closed as well.

When it came to trade-in time, I was sure glad I'd spent the $2000 extra for the Diesel - no-one wanted a Petrol.

Cost of fuel isnt the only consideration. I struggle to carry enough diesel in my car for remote trips now so a petrol is out of the question purely on their range. Supply & demand will dictate the price so no point losing sleep over it. :-)
Cheers Craig...........

It is quite obvious that oil companies use diesel out of the bowser to prop up profits. Having been involved with big diesel fuel users we could get 30% to 35% discount on diesel bowser price delivered to our own tanks but petrol was 1% to 1.5%. Of course we had the road tax component to claim as well on top of this, I think nearly 40cents.
One thought I just had, maybe the fuel companies subsidised farmers out of sympathy.

neil

Maybe we need to start a co-op where we can all pool our diesel purchase and gain a discount.

Everyone wants to have a whinge about fuel pricing well you'd better get used to it as this is as good as it gets. We are the 4th CHEAPEST on fuel costs even after fuel excises in the OECD as of the September quarter 2005 and that position hasn't changed.
Stop whinging and just be glad your not paying what the Europeans are.
Check out this link fuel pricing and pay particular attention to points 3,4,7,14 and 15.
Yes the site is Caltex but it doesn't change the fact that we pay waaaaaay less than many other countries.
Regards Andrew.