Canvas and water
Submitted: Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 18:29
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Mike Harding
When I bought my swag the instructions advised me to soak it with the garden hose before using it in the bush. The rational being that the holes created by the sewing (and the cotton used to sow) needed to be expanded by a good soaking to make the swag waterproof - I followed that advice and the swag has, indeed, been waterproof.
Question: given the very dry time we've had of late (at least in Victoria) should I re-soak my swag after a year or so of hot sun and little rain?
Mike Harding
Reply By: mike w (WA) - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 18:52
Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 18:52
Mike,
I cant give you a 'text book' answer, however from experience with our canvas tent I have found that we do indeed need to ocassionally retreat the canvas after long periods of not having been used. I usually find the best indicator to be drips of
water lqanding on my head whilst trying to sleep in a rain storm. I have since treated the joins with a silicon based canvas treatment to avoid said situations occuring.
cheers,
Mike
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Reply By: howie - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 19:15
Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 19:15
the age-old tradition of expanding things by watering before use, does indeed raise the question - when the swag/tent dries out, do the holes re-appear.
i solved this problem by installing a humidfier in the shed so all my
camping gear is kept in tip-top condition.
if the humidifier proves to costly, there is always the old trick of painting the seams with a good brand of coke/pepsi type drink.
it is preferable to use a sugarless one to prevent attracting ants.
i used pepsi max on my last swag with great results.
it does tend to stain the canvas slightly but otherwise works great.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 19:20
Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 19:20
Hmm I would definitly NOT do this my shed is dank enough as it is and I recently pulled my swags out of there coz of mould
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Follow Up By: howie - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 19:24
Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 19:24
but they will not leak
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Follow Up By: Aandy(WA) - Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:25
Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:25
Just fall apart :)
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Reply By: Member - Brian H (QLD) - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 20:28
Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 20:28
Nice time mike, I was thinking of this the other day and was looking at getting my tent out and give it a bath ...... so to speak. Mind you proberly get arrested in
Brisbane at the moment if I tried it. lol.
Brian
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Reply By: Jim from Best Off Road - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 21:15
Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 21:15
OK Mike,
For WIW here is my understanding, according to a canvas tent expert.
All stitched canvas will initially leak. Multiple soakings serve to swell and shrink the stitched joins until they become one. After that they are waterproof for life. He alsio said, NEVER EVER put anything (be it wax, glue, sealant or Coke?) on the seams. Let them swell and seal naturally and you will happy for evermore.
Giving it another soak before you go will do it no harm of course.
I followed his advice and it worked on my Camper.
Jim.
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Reply By: Shaker - Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 23:08
Saturday, Dec 15, 2007 at 23:08
Mike, the initial 'wetting down' is to expand the canvas & thread from where the needle with 2 threads has passed through the canvas.
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Reply By: madfisher - Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 08:48
Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 08:48
brought a new centre pole tent recently, put it up to give it a soaking, could not put it away for 3 weeks because it rained every day, and it wouldnot dry out. lol Not that I am complaining.
Cheers Pete
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Reply By: Aandy(WA) - Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:34
Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 09:34
I have a centre pole tent which leaked persistently in very heavy rain (a few years ago) despite repeated soakings. Took it back to maker who had it for several weeks. Eventually got it back with a couple of bottles of seam sealer. I applied that with a cotton bud along each seam and it hasn't leaked since.
Southern Cross said that they don't know why but sometimes a tent leaks more than normal - could even be that the needle used to sow it was nearing replacement time and the stitch holes were made slightly larger than normal by the blunter end. Anyhow, the sealant fixed it and it has since withstood extremely heavy rain.
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Reply By: Steve - Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 11:33
Sunday, Dec 16, 2007 at 11:33
Mike,
cotton fibres actually swell when washed/soaked. This effectively closes up not only the sewing holes but the holes in the actual weave as
well. It doesn't revert back to it's brand new original state. As an upholsterer, I've had similar issues with fabrics when they are cleaned/washed - particularly loose covers. You shouldn't need to re-do it.
Nice to be able to give you advice for a change ;-)
cheers,
Steve
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 16:59
Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 16:59
Sorry people, remiss of me, I forgot to say thank you for all the responses to this thread.
I'll not worry about wetting the swag in the future and hopefully natural rainfall will do it more often anyway :)
Mike Harding
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