Installing an Audible Overheating Alarm

Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 14:53
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So I've bought the bits to install an audible alarm to alert me to excessive engine temperature in the 2000 model Troopy with the 1hz engine (no turbo).This install will save me staring at the Temp gauge. I have to attach a Temperature switch to rear of the 'head'. Now the problem is that I obviously cant screw it on, nor do I think I can stick in on with glue. The switch is about the size of a 10 cent piece and about 5mm high. It's important that I have that the surface of the switch is in full contact with the 'head' so that an accurate and instant alarm sounds when the temp rises above100 degrees...........Any suggestions.

Regards Jeff

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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 14:57

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 14:57
Calling Roachie...

he had alarms on his alarms on his warning alarm gauges...
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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:20

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:20
Thanks for the vote of confidence Trucky!!! haha

Actually an engine temp alarm is one thing I didn't actually have fitted to the old 4.2TD. I had EGT gauge with 2 different sensors, coolant temp gauge (in top radiator hose) and an oil temp gauge with sensor in sump. I had alarms for low water & oil pressure.

On the Chev I have oil pressure and low water alarms as well as one for the doors on the cargo box (after my mishap in Alice Springs...haha).

With the external temp alarm sensor, I would suggest it be bolted to a suitable size piece of flat steel plate (say 3mm thickness) which can then be bolted to the head, possibly using one of the bolts that secures the rocker cover in place.

On the Chev, I haven't bothered whacking a hole in the sump to mount the oil temp sender, so I've done what I consider to be the next best thing and mounted the sensor in a blind hole in the block. It was a threaded hole just ahead of the starter motor and had no apparent use. The brass sender unit fitted up neatly after I filled the hole with grease first (to transmit the temp to the sender). It registers around the 90o mark most of the time when I'm on the hwy.

Good luck.....

Cheers

Roachie
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 15:37

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 15:37
Wouldn't it have been easier just to get one of these
Low Coolant Alarm


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Follow Up By: ob - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 15:54

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 15:54
Doug

the above link is for a low coolant level alarm, I think what the original poster was after was a high temp alarm IMHO

Cheers ob
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:35

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 17:35
If they didn't supply something similar (and they should have) buy a tube of this:

Heatsink compound

and use it liberally on the surface of the sensor before applying the sensor to the head. DO NOT try and glue the sensor.

The thermal switch sounds like it may be one of these:

Bi-metal switch

if so, I'm not impressed :(

Try to find a spot on the head where you can get as much of the base of the sensor in contact with the head as possible - ideally the sensor should be attached to the head by screws. Unless you can obtain a really good contact the thermal transfer from head to switch will be, to say the least, poor.

Care to provide a link to the suppliers?

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Member - Matthew H (SA) - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 21:42

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 21:42
Mike & All,
Having worked in the aircraft industry for the past 18 years - please let me offer some advice. Heatsink compound is used extensively within, mainly the avionics side of things, throughout various aircraft types. The mistake many people make is that "more is good". Not so. A VERY THIN film of heatsink compound is the go. Anything more, defeats the purpose by starting to insulate against the heat - the very thing you are trying to measure! Trust me, there is chapter's in aircraft publications on this very subject!

Cheers, Matt.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Dec 20, 2007 at 07:13

Thursday, Dec 20, 2007 at 07:13
You are quite correct Matt, thanks for the correction.
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Reply By: Louie the fly - Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 21:31

Wednesday, Dec 19, 2007 at 21:31
This is from memory. I am going to get some fitted to my boat for low oil pressure and high engine temp, and I think it works thus. I think its called a Murphy Sensor or something like that, and they send a signal to a piezo buzzer or some other audible alarm. Its going to cost me about $150 to get it done. Cheaper than a $6500 engine rebuild. Any autoelec should be able to supply and fit them.
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