OFC Cable
Submitted: Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 15:39
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HI Everyone,
Just wiring up some new panels/meters and batteries in the camper.
Went down to Jaycar Electronics and have picked up some OFC based cable. Now i have a heap of 12 Gauage, 10, 8 and 6 (big stuff for the batteries).
It's different cable to what the "solar" people gave me. Is this an issue. Whats better? The OFC cable has lots of copper about the same width (inside) but lots more strands, whilst the other stuff has thicker copper strands but much less of them? Should i use this OFC cable?
(By the way i am hooking up 12 volt power etc)
Cheers
Justin
P.S Hope everyone had a good xmas.:)
Reply By: Mainey (wa) - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 17:39
Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 17:39
Justin,
the AMP ratings are relevant when connecting batteries, these numbers would be on the 'spool' the cable was supplied from.
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:34
Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:34
The AMP rating of cables is of little consequence if you are designing a system to have minimum voltage drops. The AMP rating of a cable is the current flow through the cable that will produce a considerable temperature rise in the cable (some say melt the insulation.) In the lengths involved in wiring our vehicles, if you use wire of just sufficient AMP rating then your system voltage drop will be too large.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:57
Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:57
Justin
Do you know how to work out the voltage drop in your system. I am sure Mainey will be able to assist - he knows everything.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Thursday, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:12
Thursday, Dec 27, 2007 at 04:12
Justin
As PeterD has said, you do need to know what size cable to use in the battery set-up to limit or have nil Voltage loss.
As you say-> ""Just wiring up some batteries in the camper.""
To ascertain the correct size battery cable to eliminate Voltage loss you will need to know what the "total distance" is from the CRANKING battery to the most distant battery and as Peter has said, if I can assist you I will.
Mainey...
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Follow Up By: kcandco - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 15:13
Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 15:13
Hi Guys
If you do a search for this article:
Cable Sizes & Conversions
by Collyn Rivers
(an excellent read)
you will find the following formula for calculating voltage drop
Voltage drop equals (cable length (in metres) X current (in amps) X 0.017) divided by cable cross-section in mm.sq.
My advice is don't be to excited about what capacity is claimed by the seller as length of wire and amperage needed are always going to dictate the size of wire required.
regards Kc
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 18:14
Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 18:14
hmmm OFC to me stands for Optic Fibre Cable but it seems that OFC means Oxygen Free Copper cable, where the O2 content is less than 15ppm. It relates to the resistance of the cable and is more specifically suited to speaker cables where long runs andsmall currents are the go.
As mentioned check the current carrying capacity pf the cable. The many strands vs fewer bigger strands in my book isn't important, but I think you'll find the many stranded cable to be more compliant and flexible.
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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:25
Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:25
OFC is just something that sales orientated types get excited over. To us techos it is just a load of cows excreta, we just go home to our wives to get our orgasms. The finer wire is an advantage only for flexibility, nice to have but more expensive.
PeterD
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Thursday, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:03
Thursday, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:03
Or goats!
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:04
Thursday, Dec 27, 2007 at 08:04
shush Mike this is a FAMILY
forum hahahahaha
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 20:01
Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 20:01
It's a very cleaver marketing tool to charge you more for cable.
You may find most cable these days are made to this standard.
As long as the area of the cable is right for the current it's OK to use.
You will find some cables having thicker strands and less of them compared to other cable with thinner strands and more of them, the differance is how flexable the cable will be.
Most of the cable jargon like OFC and what the cable looks and feels like stems from the car audio market out of the US of A.
Same as everyone who is in car audio thinks gold plated connectors are the bee's knee's and thats why they a 4 times the price of anything else...marketing at it's best.
Same as tyre
places selling you nitrogen in your tyres instead of plain old air, to 99.9% of people they would not see a differance....another great marketing idea.
Regards Richard
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Follow Up By: Member - joc45 (WA) - Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:17
Wednesday, Dec 26, 2007 at 23:17
Agreed.
The quoted electrical conductivity figures for OFC cable are generally no better than for standard Electrolytic Tough Pitch copper wire. Standard ETP copper usually equals or exceeds the International Annealed Copper Standard for conductivity.
The lower oxygen content in OFC is supposed to give a less brittle wire, of which higher ductility is one of the benefits, and better mechanical performance at high temperatures; ie, less brittle following welding. It is useful in glass-metal seals.
HiFi enthusiasts have argued for the last 20 years or so that the copper oxide crystals within the copper may act as small diodes, creating a small non-linearity in the conductivity of the copper, thereby creating imperfections in the sound quality; OFC purpordedly exhibits none of this.
As far as your DC wiring goes, choose whatever circular mil rating you need to carry the current in whatever grade of copper you like. If the dealer throws in OFC wire at no extra cost, take it.
Gerry
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