Jayco water tank not filling

Submitted: Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:09
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I have done a search regarding this problem & unable to track down an answer - can someone please help.
We have a Jayco Hawk with a single water tank we are unable to fill. We normally only use it for camping & while able to fill it previously (albeit slowly), we could. After staying in a caravan park for a few days & connecting to mains water, we are now unable to fill it at all. We have the normal pump tap with an after market electric pump.
An airlock/breather tube blockage would be the obvious answer but I can't even find a breather tube. Would it be tied up with the tap/pump itself ie is the breather tube part of the tap assembly? Any guidance before pulling apart would be appreciated.
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Reply By: Nav 8 - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:44

Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:44
G`Day rambada 1,,,This seems to be a common problem with a lot of Vans water tanks. We now own our second van and have had the same problem with both. It seems to be a problem with the breather tube from the tank up to the filler neck being too small, that's my theory anyway. The way I solved the problem with ours was to use the drain on the single tank and the balance tube on the duel tank. Using retic fittings simply `T` into the bottom drain. Then using 13mm pipe bring a line to the edge of the van and fit a retic Tap and then a snap on hose fitting anchored to the bottom edge with a 13mm saddle. You can then snap on a hose turn on the tap and with the filler cap removed fill to overflowing. Works for me anyway. Regards ,,,Nav.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:49

Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 11:49
To my knowledge, the breather is normally incorporated in with the filler assembly. You should be able to observe a separate tube coming out of the tank and running up along side the larger filler tube and terminating up towards the neck.

That's how my Camper Trailer is configured but Jayco may have a different method.

The breather tube should be attached to the top portion of the water tank, either on the top itself, or top side of the tank.

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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 00:11

Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 00:11
This depends on the age of the van. Only the later models have this breather arrangement. The older vans just had a hole in the top of the tank with a bit of a baffle to stop too much dust getting in. These older vans often had the tank mounted with the breather up against the floor and this blocked the breather action. The newer vans often come with badly installed tanks and this breather tube is squashed or kinked preventing it to allow the tank to be filled normally.

Also if you are trying to fill the tank too quickly you could be drowning the breather. Take the fitting off the end of the hose, push the end of the hose down the filler pipe 100-150mm and try filling the tank. If this works then build yourself a piece of hose with a fitting to join it to your hose and use that to fill the tank. If this does not work then you will have to remove the tank and check the hoses.

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Reply By: PeterInSA - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 12:00

Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 12:00
rambada1,
Friend had a similar problem. 45 minutes to fill the tank. Had no breather tube in the tank. Dropped the tank by undoing the hangers, you can the see in the middle of the top of the tank a round circle where the breather should go.

Bought an L shaped plastic piece and 300mm of plastic tubing from C/van store drilled a hole in the tank connected the plastic fitting and hose and no problems. The end of the hose should fall down the side of the tank when in situ. Use a special plastic hose from c/van store otherwise it may taint your water.

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Follow Up By: disco1942 - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 00:16

Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 00:16
"The end of the hose should fall down the side of the tank when in situ"

Not really - if the breather tube is sticking down into the tank, the tank can only be filled to the bottom of the breather. Make sure there is nothing sticking down into the tank and then you can fill it completely.

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Follow Up By: PeterInSA - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 14:34

Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 14:34
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Should have said down the outside of the tank. ie one side of the L shaped plastic joint fits into the top centre of the tank so you can fill the tank to the top. Plastic tube fits into the other end of the L fitting and travels along the top outside of the tank and down the outside vertical section of the tank. if you do not connect the plastic tube or it is not long enough to get rid of the overflow water some tanks have 2 deep indentations on the top of them that can fill up with the overfill water (about 2 lts each).

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Reply By: moary - Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 15:36

Friday, Dec 28, 2007 at 15:36
G'Day rambada1. I was under my 2005 Jayco Eagle Outback yesterday repairing a small leak in the outlet tube. The breather on mine runs along the back top of the tank and finishes at the water filling door. The water fill cap is on the left and the breather opening has a small fine mesh cover, below and to the right. The mains connection is on the right. While under the camper I noted that the breather tube is clear plastic 12mm. It sits loosely along the back top of the tank. It may be possible that yours has developed a kink in the tube causing a blockage or the fine mesh screen may be blocked. The fill tube is also clear plastic (about 25mm). It too could easily become kinked causing a blockage.
Hope this is of some help.
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Reply By: rambada1 - Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 10:07

Saturday, Dec 29, 2007 at 10:07
Thankyou everyone - will be under the van & fixing it once the weather breaks. Will post my result as it may help others.

Once again, thanks for the guidance - I thought of similar concepts but lacked the confidence, thought I may make it worse. Many thanks once again.
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Reply By: Keith_A (Qld) - Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:11

Sunday, Dec 30, 2007 at 10:11
Hi Rambada - In our jayco, mud wasps had closed up the breather hole. The tank then cannot fill as the air can't get out.
As the Sandman said - the best solution is to fit a breather tube to
the top of the tank, and run it alongside the filler hose (with zip ties) up to the filler cap. If the unit was built in the last 5 years, the filler cap will have a small breather stem on top, to attach the breather hose to.
If not, a new filler cap is fairly cheap to buy.
Why go to all this trouble - it keeps the dust out of your water supply; it stops the wasps blocking the breather,it stops the water siphoning out the breather hose when the camper is on a lean; plus you know for certain when the tank is full - water spurts out the breather at the filler cap.
.....................Keith
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Reply By: rambada1 - Friday, Jan 04, 2008 at 13:50

Friday, Jan 04, 2008 at 13:50
Ended up being the old breather tube problem - that is, didn't have one. Now has one & all is good in the world.
Many thanks & kind regards

Rambada
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