Treg hitch with weight distribution system

Submitted: Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 18:32
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Hi all, can you get weight distribution system to suit Treg hitch?
Use to have a Haymen Reece one to suit standard tow ball but now have Treg hitch setup
Cheers Ray
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Reply By: Dunco (NSW) - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 18:44

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 18:44
I've seen the normal setup with a Treg hitch.....


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Follow Up By: Member - Poppy (QLD) - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 18:50

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 18:50
I looked at the normal one today and it seems it would need some modification to take the Treg fitting (vehicle side)
Not too keen to mess around modifying it.
Checked Hayman Reece website but no info on what I need
Cheers Ray
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Follow Up By: ddr - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 19:57

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 19:57
DUnco is correct that the Std HR onw will work with a Treg, IIRC all that needs to be done is to grind off the bottom parts that hang down on the treg part of the car so it sits flat on the HR hitch.

Crap explanation I know but the MSN Caravanners forum has more detail.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 19:50

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 19:50
To my knowledge, weight distribution systems are only beneficial on the black top.

That's why they are not available for offroad hitches.


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Follow Up By: Dunco (NSW) - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 20:51

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 20:51
Yes, not real good for off road work...but you can get them as I've seen one on a Nissan towing a big off road van....


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Follow Up By: Scrubcat - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 22:34

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 22:34
I don`t understand what the difference between black top and gravel/dirt would make to the distribution of the weight.
I thought that the WDH was to transfer some of the weight from the rear wheels of the tow vehicle to the front wheels, and this would be required no matter what the road surface was.
I am interested to learn what others know ( Sandman & Dunco )
on this matter as I am relatively new to caravanning and very willing to learn.
I have just fitted a Hayman Reece 550 WDH to my Supreme Getaway off road c/van which has an AT35 hitch, works a wonder.
Ta very muchley.
Scrubcat
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Follow Up By: Dunco (NSW) - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 23:15

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 23:15
I ain't no expert scrubcat, just going by what I have heard and seen.

However, I did drive into a servo with my normal van one day and it had a hell of a dip from the roadway and it ended up moving my brackets that were bolted on the A frame.

I believe that when there are huge dips in the roadway, then the weight is not transferred correctly which causes bad handling....


Perhaps others with more knowledge can help out here.


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Follow Up By: ddr - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:20

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:20
There is no difference between road & Dirt road in the use of a WDH. The problems are however caused when using a WDH in true Offroad situation like going through a creek bed, or up a rutted track where maximum hitch movement is needed.

If going through a ditch with the WDH attached you would place a much bigger strain on all the components than normal with possibly increased chance of breaking something. As the WDH is trying to straighten the rig, but cant because of the terrain.
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 11:43

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 11:43
As ddr has described, weight distribution hitches restrict articulation.

Assuming the tow ball weight is within correct specifications, a set of Polyair airbags would be a better solution.



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Follow Up By: ddr - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 15:16

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 15:16
Polyair's WONT distribute the weight. The may lift the rear of the car but that wont distribute the weight back to the front wheels of the car.

Lighter front wheels means less grip for cornering & braking. Only a WDH can distribute some weight back to the front. Polyair would be fine in the offroad, but put you at a disadvantage onroad.

WDH dosent need to be connected offroad, as generally your not travellnig fast enough to gain the benefit. Talking about real offroad here not 80kph on a dirt road.
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Reply By:- Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 20:53

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 20:53
G'Day Ray,

Myself and others with TREGG hitches on our off-road caravans use a WDH by fitting a spacer plate between the normal hitch and the tregg. The bolt on the tregg is more than long enough to accomodate this and means you don't have to grind off the lugs which prevent the tregg from twisting on the hitch.

One person used the spacer as a platform to weld a bar and some larger mud flaps accross the rear of the vehicle to reduce the amount of stones being thrown up on the caravan.

Took an angle grinder, a tin of black spray paint and about 1/2 hour to make

Hope this helps

Rolande
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Follow Up By: Member - Poppy (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:51

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:51
Thanks Rolande
My local caravan dealer suggested the same, just though that there may be off the shelf setup
Only want it for the black top driving when towing the van with the wifes cherokee
Cheers Ray
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Follow Up By:- Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:27

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 18:27
G'Day Ray,

Turned out rather easy in the end. I had a spare tongue off an old Falcon that I no longer needed, just cut the end off it, already had the right sized hole and nice and thick plate.

Bit of grinding on the edges so it sat flat on the hitch.

Painted it black, without looking really close you can't even tell the plate is there,

Hope this helps

Rolande
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Reply By: Member - BIGMARK (QLD) - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 21:06

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 21:06
Ray,
Not too sure what you need to do but I have a treg hitch if you want to come and look at it.
Cheers,
Mark.
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Follow Up By: Member - Poppy (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:53

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:53
Mark
Will give you a call tonight, I see I missed a call from you last night
We were celebrating Russian Xmas with our neighbour
Cheers Ray
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Reply By: GerryP - Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 22:57

Monday, Jan 07, 2008 at 22:57
Hi Poppy,
Yes, you can definitely use a WD system with a Treg hitch. I have one on mine. I simply ground the pins off the receiver and welded a small rod to the top of the WDH so it can't spin around. You only need to take them off for the really rough stuff like deep creek crossings etc.

There is one disadvantage, however - it does put a lot of additional strain on the poly block, resulting in accelerated wear in the horizontal pin where the bronze bearing sleeve may eventually come loose from the block itself. Having said that, it will still last for many years and is not dangerous even when this happens. I reckon a WDH is well worth having and makes a huge difference to the way your van tows.

Cheers
Gerry
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Follow Up By: Member - Poppy (QLD) - Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:55

Tuesday, Jan 08, 2008 at 08:55
Thanks Jerry, will check that option out as we only want it for the black top on wifes car as I have a Patrol that tows it with no probs
Cheers Ray
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Follow Up By: ian-and-penny - Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 14:01

Thursday, Jan 10, 2008 at 14:01
There are two types/rating of poly block. Only one can be used with a WDH .
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