The French Line

Hi again,

I know there are some restrictions on towing a camper trailer across the French Line. Has anyone done this recently & can I get some feed back please.
Cheers
Jason
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Reply By: Pete and Lez - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 16:15

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 16:15
As far as I know the only restrictions are, You, your vehicle and campers capabilities. I could and will be corrected if wrong.
Regards Peter
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Reply By: disco1942 - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 16:25

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 16:25
I do not think there are any legal impediments to towing a trailer across the Simpson. They just request that you do not do so as you do much more damage to the tracks when towing, particularly when crossing soft bits. With requests like that it is a big reflection on your character if you do tow a camper across there.

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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 16:52

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 16:52
disco 1942 could you please inform us all how an all up rig weight of say 5000 KG spread over vehicle and trailer =6 tyres , damages the tracks more than a vehicle weighing 5000KG on 4 tyres ?? the 1 and only reason that trailers are frowned upon in the Simpson is that people take trailers designed for light household duties and when they fail they abandon them.
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Follow Up By: Smudger - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 18:55

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 18:55
Axel,
An experienced 4wheeler, like yorself, will probably create no impact while dragging a trailer. The problem is, inexperienced 4WDers first time crossing have enough trouble negotiating the dunes, in fact most Tag-A-Longs anticipate a 30% greater fuel requirement for first timers. Coz they tend to stick in low gear, first or second, and spin wheels more than really necessary. Add a trailer into the equation and the exrra weight means track damage is significantly exaccerbated .
But, you already knew that didn't you!
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 19:06

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 19:06
Smudger ,just for a laugh get your [preferably female] friend/ wife to put on a running shoe on her right foot and a stilleto on her left foot , then have her stand with her right heel onto your instep , , no damage no pain , then have her do the same with the stilleto shod foot , damage and extreme pain , what have we learnt from this excersize ?? Correct !! spread the weight over a larger area as in 6 tires instead of 4 for less damage!! LOL.
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Follow Up By: Smudger - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 19:12

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 19:12
I have no idea what you're talking about!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 23:35

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 23:35
Watching vehicle + trailer trying to reverse down a twisting track off of a dune is not pretty. The recomendation not to tow has been made for a considered reason.
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 16:32

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 16:32
Jason

There are no legal restrictions.

The Dept of Environment and Heritage of SA who run parks within the area that the French Line crosses, requests travellers not to take trailers across the Simpson. They reckon that the track gets degraded by travellers who tow and do not know what they are doing. They are right to a point but there is not much they can do about it.

If you want to tow across the French Line then do it from West to East as the dunes are steeper on the eastern side. Lower tyre pressures are essential.


Cheers
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Reply By: Member - George (WA) - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 17:19

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 17:19
Have towed a camper trailer from Birdsville to Mt Dare Stn, via the French line. Car tyres 16psi, trailer 10psi. We had no trouble and certainly did far less damage to the track that the 6 motor bikes that passed us going in the opposite direction. Spinning the wheels up the sand dunes, racing off the track into the bush and leaving skidmarks/ruts as they turned around to race up the sandune again. Totally irresponsible actions. In my view, motor bikes should be banned from the French line, not camper trailers when running correct tyre pressures. Just my bit
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Reply By: Member - Adam S (SA) - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 18:07

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 18:07
I don't think any particular vehicle should ever be banned, only the operator.
I will hopefully be towing a trailer all over the Simpson in Jul-Aug and to be quite frank I could not give a rats /'[];' If they like it or not.

My original intentions were to travel from west to east for the reasons willem has stated but the information I have now is, although east to west is steeper it a lot smoother to travel the opposite way.

Adam.
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Follow Up By: Member - Adam S (SA) - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 18:22

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 18:22
I have this east west bit all messed up ,but you know what I mean.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 22:42

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 22:42
Adam,
It varies. 15 years ago the vast majority travelled from the west. These days its probably 60:40. So the eastern face of the dunes are often chopped up too.

If you are following a group who chew up dunes you'll have a bumpy ride. But if you're not following anyone, the oncoming vehicles have usually smoothed out your approaches.

In July school holidays, its like Rundle Mall out there :-)
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Reply By: Member - Duncs - Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 21:56

Friday, Jan 18, 2008 at 21:56
Towed a trailer across in 2004, no problems. I was challenged over my decision to take the trailer at Mount Dare but when I explained my reasons and experience the challenge went no further.

As others have said drop tyre pressures, I ended up around 15psi all round, and keep your right foot light on the go pedal. Also keep your coupling as high as possible. Mine got in the way on Big Red and caused me more dramas than I needed, It's hard work backing down that dune having had the front wheels on top.

Duncs

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