Are GPS a Safety Issue?
Submitted: Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:05
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Member - Oldbaz. NSW.
One cant help but see the interest in GPS that currently permeates this
Forum. It seems everyone is about to buy or already has one. Being a miserable old fart, they dont appeal to me
at all. I have seen one operate in the metro area & sure, in those
circumstances it appeared very useful, if you dont know where you
are going. Why would you need one for outback travel unless in
uncharted territory?. Sorry, I've wandered off course, another
senior moment...back to the subject.. If Mobile phones are
a safety risk, DVD players a safety risk, why arent GPS devices
also a safety risk?. Do not they display a constantly changing
screen to distract the driver?. Perhaps the wise sages that lurk
herein can explain.....oldbaz.
Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:35
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 12:35
I think the gps is great, reduces distrasction as mentioned above in traffic situations, and is fantastic offroad. Finding tracks on googls earth, transferring them to the gps, and go find the place. You know how to get there, and how far away it is In the past you go down a track that gets progressively worse, often not knowing what you have got yourself in for. With the gps, the decision as to turn back or not is made simpler as you know how much further, so you won't turn back when the place of interest is just around the corner, or another 30 k away.
Another good thing one has done recently, a mate mooved into a suburb of dead ends and it was a bit of a maze. He recorded a track on his gps, emailed it to me, and I drove strait there without backtracking or getting lost.....as I said above, I love them.
Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Member - Stephen L (SA) - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 13:26
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 13:26
Hi Oldbaz
Firstly most people get mixed up with street navigation units and the conventional hand held GPS. Both unit receive information from satellites.
You will find that it is the street navigation units that have the
well detailed city maps, with voice prompts on which way to go etc..
When it comes down to the good old GPS, you will find that people that use them are the ones that go bush, with pre plotted waypoints and even going as far as having them linked to a laptop with moving maps.
If you are only driving in built up area, the street navigation will
well exceed the hand held GPS, but take it bush, or even out on a body of water and you may as
well not bother to turn them on.
Each to their own as both units offer different tasks.
Who wants to be driving around built up areas anyway. Give me a conventional GPS (which I have, as
well as a laptop and Ozi) and head bush where you will have more fun. As for a safety factor, in the event of trouble, you will be able to advise someone exactly where you are by giving them your coordinates, proving that you have a radio to send the message out.
Cheers
Stephen
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 14:13
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 14:13
Thank you, Stephen, you too have added to my knowledge of the subject. I too have seen screens mounted at windscreen level, as mentioned below, & wondered if this is legal...oldbaz.
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Reply By: Willem - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 13:53
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 13:53
Yeah
well, now we have 2
My 'old' GPS is a Magellan 330 and coming up for 5 years of age.
I use it regularly to
check my speed when travelling as the GQ speedo is untrue. The Magellan is mounted out of my line of sight to what is in front of me.
I am always interested in height above sea level....dunno why....lol
I never bother with waypoints or plots or preferred routes etc BUT I use my GPS in conjunction with my laptop when doing
treks in very remote or trackless country. This where it comes into its own and is a handy tool.
The missus has just bought we TomTom with voice instructions and a speeding warning and that is what she wants. Once you have the GPS up and running and set for whatever thing you want it to do you rarely have to look at it
I am an old fart as
well but I just love all the new technology....when it works!!!...lol
Go on...get yourself one!!!!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 14:35
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 14:35
Ah, Willem, you know I am too much of a minimalist traveller to
ever indulge in such frivolities. But, then again, I may weaken under sustained public pressure....cheers...oldbaz.
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Reply By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 14:09
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 14:09
Hi OldBaz
The GPS I use has both street level stuff and records your tracks
as
well and I think it is one of the best things around.
The ability to be able to follow your own path back to some known point and know roughly where you are is a magic tool for those who go bush.
Even a couple of weeks ago when I had to play ambulance it proved its value.
It worked out a path to a hospital 150km away that I have never been to and saved time doing this when it counted.
Later driving back to
camp past midnight when I was getting tired
I followed my own tracks back to
camp taking turn off's I would have had trouble sorting out in the pitch black.
By looking at the contours and road paths ahead I got a rough idea of the road ahead and also possible phone contact points.
Knowing when dark, that the road infront of you is not straight is also valuable as it allows you to avoid concentrating on the GPS when its not so safe.
Some technology is useless but GPS is magic.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 14:32
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 14:32
Robin, you raise some very valid points & obviously know how to use the technology to advantage. My concerns stem more from the screen distraction viewpoint, & also the common location of
screens in windscreen line of sight. I am not sure of the legality of that. There must be some guidelines or rules I would think.
cheers...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 16:00
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 16:00
Yep they could and do distract one - but it a question of degree and common sense.
I specifically mount
mine in the line of sight so that when looking at it one gets some background input from whats happening on the road. I also use it driving.
Its sort of like a speedo etc , the biggest real distraction I have is watching speedo to much so as not to get caught.
Particularly in school 40 kmh zones - I never have taken my eyes off the road so much since these came in along with some dumb speed limits in
places here, whereby the normal operation of a set cruise control could still see you booked.
In this real context the GPS is a help not a hinderance.
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Follow Up By: Member - Fred G (NSW) - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 18:10
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 18:10
You can't tell me they're gonna lead you through speed zones like the ones on the South side of Murrurrundi (New Eng. H'way) where there are about seven zones in a couple of K's, including a school zone, and a speed camera thrown in.
I wonder if the magistrate will take into account that your GPS didn't have the correct info..
One doesn't have to drive on the speed limit, you can drive under it.....Remember, you can get charged for not driving to the conditions, even if your not over the speed limit.
Use them as a navigation guide only, and only as a rough guide for anything else. They are not gonna replace your eyes. IMHO :-)
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Reply By: Mal58 - Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 17:15
Wednesday, Jan 23, 2008 at 17:15
We bought my eldest son one of the GPS navigators with voice guidance for Christmas. He let us use it when we traveled into
Sydney (we are Melbournites) and it was particulary helpful in directing us with the highway and street changes etc when we had to traverse the northern parts of
Sydney.
On our other journeys with it, we did find that it was not always correct. Several times telling us to turn or merge left etc when in fact you could not.
While they can be a distraction, the other danger is that they are not always correct, so it is probably not a good idea to slave-ishly follow the directions without really knowing where you are going.
Cheers,
Mal
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Reply By: Russ n Sue - Thursday, Jan 24, 2008 at 07:59
Thursday, Jan 24, 2008 at 07:59
Oldbaz,
I run two
GPS units simultaneously. One drives a
navigation program on my laptop. Like the others have commented here, I pre-program my trip and it talks to me. I don't have to look at the screen. For us, this is a very valuable tool as we are travelling Oz full-time and do not know our way around any of the towns and cities outside of our home state of WA.
The other GPS records our trip details and track information. This is useful for fuel economy calculations etc, but more importantly, it allows us to "replay" trips and garner details that can be useful to other travellers. This info can also be useful to contest alleged speeding infringements (in some states). Not that we speed, but radar systems are not infallible.
Neither of these GPS or
Navigation systems actually require me to look at them while driving, so I don't perceive any safety risk at all.
Cheers
Russ.
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