problems with 2nd gear in 80 series Cruiser....
Submitted: Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 19:57
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Rowen
Howdy folks....
Yep, I've heard a bit about this. My 1990 80 series diesel gearbox doesnt like 2nd gear when warmed up. I heard this was rectified in later models (after '92?).
Can anyone shed any light on this at all?
Cheers
Ro
Reply By: Middle Jeff - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 20:11
Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 20:11
Hi Rowen
No they never fixed it, if your 2nd is shot then maybe time for a rebuild there are a couple of ways to extend the life with the most popular being castrol VMX-M. Also Nulon make a little tube off stuff which is pretty good.
Have fun
Craig
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Reply By: 96 GXL 80 series - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 20:15
Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 20:15
I know back in 1994 when the first of the 4.5lt model came out there was an issue with the synchros used and were change under warranty up to 100,000klm,s
They were very notchy changing from 1st to 2nd gear.
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Reply By: samsgoneagain - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 20:24
Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 20:24
try 'bp easyshift'. it stopped my jigger doing it.
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 20:38
Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 20:38
Your problem is with the gearbox hot, so its likely to be the synchros, rather than the oil. You're correct that the problem was "rectified" after '92 - they upgraded them to triple synchros.
Does it change OK if you double shuffle? If so, just treat it like a 2A LandRover that had no synchro on first or second gear :-))
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Reply By: age - Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 21:35
Thursday, Jan 31, 2008 at 21:35
Rowen
I had a 1990 80 series with identical issues. USe the Castrol oil recommended above. After my gearbox had been out 4 times with new syncros and bearings each time (under warranty) a Toyota technician identified that the clutch slave cylinder just was not actuating properly - cheap overhaul and improved gearbox performance heaps.
Cheers
A
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Reply By: Member - Barnesy (SA) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 06:37
Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 06:37
Rowen, take the gearbox out and replace it with a Nissan Patrol box. Won't ever have a problem again.
(Sorry mate, not constructive I know, but I couldn't resist).
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:17
Friday, Feb 01, 2008 at 08:17
Barnsey, I think he still wants a 5th gear that he can use :-))
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Reply By: Member - 120scruiser (NSW) - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 14:20
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 14:20
Or you can use
Caltex Textran.
Or Mobil Fluid 424.
Makes changing unbelievably better.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 14:24
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 14:24
There is an excellent chance that the problem started after the wrong oil was used.
Cheers Steve.
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