Suzuki Diesel
Submitted: Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 09:32
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Member - Doug T (FNQ)
Long overdue
1.9 litre Diesel Turbo-charged Engine
Suzuki
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Reply By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:40
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:40
Nice little unit, makes you wonder whether a little diesel like that
will last,(especially turboed) irrespect of Suzukis good reputation.
Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:54
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 10:54
Hiya Axle
It was only after I sent the post I thought that a 1.9 is a bit small, though not as bad as the first Jackaroo's with a 1600cc , it was so under powered for it's size, the Fantastic Rocky had a 2.8T and they compare in size to the Vitara, I think given time Suzuki will increase the engine size.
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Reply By: madfisher - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 12:04
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 12:04
The old rule of thumb with diesels, the larger the motor the longer it will last
Pete
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Follow Up By: Richard Kovac - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 15:53
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 15:53
LOL.. who's thumb was that..
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Reply By: Ole Grizzly - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 15:21
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 15:21
And still no Cruise Control...........
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Reply By: wheeleybin - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 16:57
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 16:57
Ill would love to hear a comment from Yanmar one the oldest and best small diesel engine makers in the world.
I would think if the quality is there it would not matter small or large the life would be there.
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Reply By: wigger - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 18:31
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 18:31
No Doug, this is all part of the great con that diesel is the way to go.This one costs $4000 more than the 2.7v6 petrol and wouldn't be much better at towing because of its small size.
The 2.7 uses 10.8l per 100kms. the 1.9 uses 7.6
Work on 20k kms per year and petrol $1.30, diesel $1.40.
The gross saving is $680 per year, deduct the financing cost of the extra $4000 at 8%, and you have a net saving of $360 per year. It's over 11 years before you even break even!!!!!!!
Factor in higher servicing costs, esp for a CRD and it would be
25 years. Would you still have it?
People are being conned into buying diesels on the grounds of saving fuel costs and being 'greener' and this is a typical case.
Sure they have their place for 'big towing' (I use one) but with cars and light"SUVS", pay anymore than $2000 extra and you need brain therapy.
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Follow Up By: Skinnydog - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 21:08
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 21:08
Fair call for all those bean counters in the cities however my main reason for going diesel is safety as we are out bush regularly and a lot of stations if they could
police it wouldnt let modern petrols on thier property due to the fire hazards involved.
Also diesel is still cheaper where we are.
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Follow Up By: wigger - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 23:03
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 23:03
Agree with you skinnydog. Buy them for safety reasons or fuel availability or any other good reason but NOT to save money if the price of diesel is significantly higher to start with. The latest diesel advertising to sell small motors is a con and I think that some of these buyers are going to be surprised to see how much more it costs them to keep a diesel on the road. Doesn't matter that the engines may last twice as long. Most of these people will have got rid of them long before this and got something more trendy. With the small stuff, the price differentials on selling are disproportionately lower so you don't recover much of the initial extra cost. (Most of this is for Doug's consumption!!!!)
PS Did you call me a bean counter?
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Follow Up By: Skinnydog - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 23:27
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 23:27
No I didnt mean to infer that you were a bean counter, after all you said you drive a big diesel.
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Follow Up By: wigger - Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 23:37
Sunday, Feb 03, 2008 at 23:37
Where's this diesel that is cheaper than petrol. I want some of what you're having.
At the risk of everyone thinking so much less of me, I have to fess up and tell you that I didn't say I had a big diesel. It's only 2.5l. I said that I used it to tow big loads.
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Follow Up By: Skinnydog - Monday, Feb 04, 2008 at 22:45
Monday, Feb 04, 2008 at 22:45
Do you live near
Port Hedland WA?
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Follow Up By: Skinnydog - Monday, Feb 04, 2008 at 22:59
Monday, Feb 04, 2008 at 22:59
When I said cheaper than petrol I meant premium ULP. If you want to know what we actually pay check out "fuel watch WA"
you may not want any of what we have then, especially for those who run LPG(try 30c more than city price).
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Follow Up By: wigger - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:56
Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:56
Tks Skd, J
Just had a quick look at W A , diesel $1.52 petro $1.41
but that's obviously not Pt H so different prices for you.
Here on NSW /Qld border 91 is 1.27 and diesel $1.40 but there's some funny border subsidization of NSW prices because of its proximity to what used to be cheaper Qld prices. A 13c difference is hard to recover for all the reasons I gave Doug.
What can you tell me about the deliveries ex
Newman to CSR well 23 regarding price and probability of it actually still being there when you arrive. Have you done it?
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Follow Up By: Davo_60 - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 18:11
Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 18:11
It does cost more to buy a diesel vehicle, but most of that cost is returned on resale/trade in so other than the extra bit of interest paid the difference is minimal.
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Follow Up By: Skinnydog - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 18:29
Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 18:29
I have only crossed the CSR a couple of times on our way to Alice, the last time 3 years ago and we paid $2/litre at Well 33. Havn't heard any probs of fuel going missing, however I thought I heard that Kumarina is not doing fuel drops any more but if they are, my guess would be that $2.50+/litre would be cheap.
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Follow Up By: wigger - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 20:06
Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 20:06
Skd,
did you buy it in 200l lots i.e. whole drums. Do you just make sure that you've got plenty of empty j/cans with you to take up what won' t fit in the tank (I've only got an 80l tank)
I couldn't find anything about Kumarina on the map. Is it just a roadhouse
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Follow Up By: Skinnydog - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:08
Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:08
Sorry I always get Kumarina and Capricorn roadhouses mixed up for some reason, I meant Capricorn. Near well 33 there is a community called Kunawarritji where you can get fuel although it would pay to call ahead to check on supplies for date of your visit,also if you roll up on a Sunday you might get charged $20 per vehicle just to get served. I don't take jerry's as I can carry 275L onboard.
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