Informative thread on Next G :)

Submitted: Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 15:35
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There has been some discussion regarding the maximum range a Next G phone and its cell are able to work at.

All the mobile phone technologies (GSM, CDMA, Next G, the old analogue) are "line of sight" if the phone can't "see" the cell then they can't talk to one-another this is simply a limiting factor of all high frequency radio communications (above about 50MHz). GSM is limited by design to about 33km, CDMA was/is line of sight and calls could often be made up to 100km or more. I wasn't sure what the limits of Next G were until today:
Next G claims range record

Now that doesn't mean you can always get these sorts of distances from your Next G phone but if you can get to a high point (especially somewhere like the Vic High Country - climb to a ridgetop etc) you're in with a good chance of hitting a far-a-way cell. Even climbing a tree or similar can help and in an emergency, if coverage is marginal, try SMS, it's small data size stands a better chance of getting through than a voice call.

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Reply By: Member -Signman - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 15:45

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 15:45
Yup- and I suppose you're gullible enough to reckon the 'test' wasn't set up with optimum locations !!!
Mate- I've operated VHF Simplex from the escarpment of NSW to New Zealand on 5 Watts, the conditions & locations were at the optimum !!
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 15:51

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 15:51
You benefited from tropospheric ducting - totally different to the Telstra test. They'll be able to repeat that test tomorrow - you won't be able to repeat yours, will you?

btw, I'm not very gullible at all.

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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 16:04

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 16:04
This thread needs to be deleted.

It's been done to death many times over.

Just get over it, every day someone puts something on nextG and it creates many arguments.

This thread has already started to go down this road on the first post, and will probable continue this way.

My phone works and I don't care if yours doesn't.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 16:46

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 16:46
REPLY VERSION A
The topic title clearly stated it was about NextG - if you're not interested in NextG, don't open those topics.

REPLY VERSION B
Your reply gives no useful information about NextG to readers - please don't waste our time in future with unhelpful posts.

REPLY VERSION C
On behalf of people who have posted here, I apologise for wasting your time.
Please post a list of topics you're not interested in, so that we can be careful not to upset you in future.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:59

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:59
I paid my membership and joined a 4wd, camping and travel forum.

If I wanted to talk about NextG I would join a Telstra Forum.

And seeing that each post on this tread has created a argument I rest My case.

Steve.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 18:33

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 18:33
i agree even i have no coment im gonna have the bex and lie down
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 19:04

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 19:04
Steve:

I suspect you have made more confrontational posts regarding Next G on this forum than most.

And, as the title said, this is an informative post - it's only posts such as yours which cause an issue.

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 19:34

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 19:34
Steve ...... Isn't communications part & parcel of 4 wheel driivng or hiking or whichever way you decide to explore the country?
I don't see you getting uptight with threads about UHF or HF communications.

Judging by your incrediibly biased replies you must have a large portfolio of Telstra shares, which judging by my own experiences with Next G, should be worthless very soon!

As previously mentioned the thread was clearly marked Next G, if it offends you, don't open the thread.

BTW, I have never personally had a CDMA phone.
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 21:31

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 21:31
Steve

Would it be possible to post a link to the Telstra Forum so that myself and others that found Mike Harding,s post informitive could go away and stop causing you so much angst?
i have had no end of trouble getting anyone at Telstra to give me a straight answer.

Cheers Pop
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Follow Up By: oldtrack123 - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 23:34

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 23:34
Hi Steve
I've just made note of your business name.
I'm sure that there are many who would love to go on tour with a caring open minded person like you!!
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 01:25

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 01:25
I debated for a while if I should do this so here goes.

Mike DID : You are right I didn't have to open this thread, you didn't have to read my answer.

No this time my reply wasn't useful info, but I have spent countless hours here giving very useful info on topic that are 4wd,Camping and travel related.

Mike Harding : Well once more you twist the truth, I have posted 1 thread on the subject this was to inform travelers on this forum as to how the service was going, this was actually factual info, reread thread 54025 it did not provoke arguments.

So mike as I have told you before if you are going to quote me do it properly.

Shaker : Yes it is communications the trouble is every post goes down the same road time and time again the same people arguing the same argument.

No I do not have an interest in Telstra shares I just posted some facts, Be careful when you assume in future.

pop2jocem : Perhaps you are not talking to the right people at Telstra, I knew what I wanted ,I asked for it and I got it, simple really.

oldtrack123 : I am generally booked out weeks in advance come the tour season.

Having said all that I will not open another thread on NextG again.

Cheers Steve.





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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 08:11

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 08:11
This thread has become pretty heated, your reply is calm and helpful - that's a credit to you.
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Follow Up By: Shaker - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:41

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 09:41
Steve, I hear what you say about Next G threads all taking the same course, maybe it is because Next G is giving many people, including myself, headaches.

On the other hand, you don't get heated about, fridges, tyres, batteries, solar, generators etc. etc. all getting repeated here ad nauseum, and always follow the same path.

To be quite honest, singularly the most annoying thing here is people, including 'members' using the forum as a personal chatroom.
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Follow Up By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 13:00

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 13:00
I have to put my 2 cents worth in.

Steve I agree alot of posts on this forum are getting stale.

How many times can someona ask-

Mounting a HF antenna.

Dual battery setups.

The best fridge.

The best lights.

Has anyone used a Cteck.

Best UHF.

Should I use a 0Db. gain antenna or a 6Db.

Iridium and Telstra cards.

Globalstar.

And the list goes on.

Another thing someone asks a question and 20 people reply with the same answer.

Maybe Dave should look at putting in headers for differant discusion topic like other forums do.

Out of all the forums I use, this one must be the worst for argument, disputes and the same old people replying with the same old bleep .

Everyone knows Waeco are better the Engle, Nissan are better the Toyota, Narva are better then Lightfource and so on.

Steve I would go on one of your tours.......sounds like you and me think the same!

Regards Richard

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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 17:29

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 17:29
>Mike Harding : Well once more you twist the truth

That would be your version of the truth, I suspect Steve.

>I have posted 1 thread on the subject

You may have only _initiated_ one thread on this subject but you have been a prolific poster to the threads of others in regard to the Next G system. Indeed the only post to cause conflict here... is yours.

>So mike as I have told you before if you are going to quote me
>do it properly.

I know this may come as a shock to you Steve but you don't get to tell me what to do.

A couple of months ago you wanted me banned from the forum and now you want my posts deleted - it seems you will have to revise your demands.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Fnqt2 - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 16:44

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 16:44
Iv just accidently put my cdma 2125 nokia through the washing machine , i was tryin to hang on to that little cdma phone like an old pair of undies , but a voice has told me - its time... its time to let go! now ill go and have a nice strong can of no more tears.
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:03

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:03
Mike
Do you think we're bloody Monkeys.....Climbing trees to make a phone call.


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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:24

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:24
I often do it Doug. Sometimes it's an "interesting" experience trying to dial and not fall out of the tree though :)

About 12 months ago I was gold prospecting in a very marginal coverage area and expecting an important business call (it would be a "yes" you've got the contract or a "No" call so I didn't need to speak to anyone. In order to maximise reception I threw a rope over a branch about 30 feet off the ground and hoisted the phone up there - worked well and I got the contract :)

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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:27

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:27
"I threw a rope over a branch about 30 feet off the ground and hoisted the phone up there "

- the limit of your bluetooth headset ? :-)
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:40

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 17:40
No - no BT. I was hoping to get a ring signal or a message-bank SMS so I could drive a few km back down the track to retrieve a message.

Trouble was when I first did it - I hoisted the phone aloft but when I tried to let it down via gravity the weight of the phone would not overcome the friction of the rope on the branch!! Had visions of my mobile phone being stuck 30' up a tree in the Vic bush! Finally got it down and next time tied the rope to a lump of wood and attached the phone to that - worked OK then :)

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 20:07

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 20:07
Mike youre a classic, I am envisaging a new product of low friction phone reception enhancer ropes
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 20:19

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 20:19
Dammit Bonz! You've exposed my intended new patent! :)
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Follow Up By: Leroy - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 20:20

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 20:20
I've had to climg hills to get reception but not trees lol.

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 22:40

Tuesday, Feb 05, 2008 at 22:40
Doug!,,,Been laughing my head off at your reply!!! Bloody great sense of humour!, should be more of it.

Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:15

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:15
Good Effort Mike

I'd never admit it on a forum like this but we have often used a small bow and arrow with string attached to do similar things.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:27

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:27
Bloody Hell........Now we got a Pygmy on the programm.




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Follow Up By: Robin Miller - Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:38

Wednesday, Feb 06, 2008 at 10:38
Thats ok Doug - as so long as no-one notices my name is Robin
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