Waeco Monsoon Portable Battery

Submitted: Saturday, Feb 16, 2008 at 22:33
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I saw one of these in TJM today and it may be the answer for my portable fridge. It is a 48ah portable made up of two 24s which can be switched to make a 48. It's slightly older technology I know but it's unused and at $300 it might be a bargain. I couldn't find any negatives about it on the 'net and wondered if anyone had any ideas about it. I've put down a $10 deposit to hold it and if it gets negative feedback I don't mind losing the $10.

Is this an AGM battery or just a Gel?

How long could this run my FF40? (I figure at least 2 days).

How often would it need to be charged up to keep it in good condition?
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Reply By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Saturday, Feb 16, 2008 at 22:47

Saturday, Feb 16, 2008 at 22:47
It looks like a BIG_MUVVA

The one I am thinking of is 60 a/h so 36 to 48 hours sound about right.

Pity it does not use a common battery. They use 14 or 15 a/h SLA batteries. Same as used on some wheel chairs. You will soon see Evakool selling the same thing.

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Derek
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Follow Up By: Derek from Affordable Batteries & Radiators - Sunday, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:23

Sunday, Feb 17, 2008 at 09:23
Is it this one. If it is its a bargain if you get at least a 12 month warranty on the internal batteries.



Waeco The Monsoon


DISCONTINUED

• Special marine version
• Separate radio and cranking sections
• Double power capacity
• Powerful emergency starting
• 600 cranking amps
• Genuine 48 amp hours, 2 x 24 fully available

Regards

Derek.
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Follow Up By: Holden4th - Sunday, Feb 17, 2008 at 13:32

Sunday, Feb 17, 2008 at 13:32
Yes, that's the one.
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Reply By: Member - Kingsley N (SA) - Sunday, Feb 17, 2008 at 00:15

Sunday, Feb 17, 2008 at 00:15
I don't wish to argue with Derek, but I reckon that Monsoon is the name used by Waeco for their marine batteries a few years ago. In fact a google search will bring up some links confirming that. In SA you could contact "Home of 12 volt" (previously "Blue Apple") at Mount Barker. If it is a Thumper style battery they are definitely AGM not Gel and I reckon it would have cost around $600-$700 when new. I have a WAECO Outback just 24AH that runs my CF50 overnight. 48AH would run a fridge for about 24 hours depending on ambient temps, thermostat setting etc.

I was told that these batteries last "for years". Mine is going on for six years old and still in use. I keep it on a float charger in the shed.
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:09

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:09
"""Mine is going on for six years old and still in use. I keep it on a float charger in the shed"""

Any 12v battery will last (almost) forever if left in this condition, it's the best way to maintain a battery.
Mainey . . .
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Reply By: Von Helga - Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:53

Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 11:53
For a long time I have wondered about the commercial relationship between Weaco and Blue Apple (now Home of 12 Volt).
As suggested in the previous, I think Blue Apple were the manufacturer of the early "Weaco" power packs however, nothing sinister in that, just an observation.
I have sung the praises of the Home of 12 volt in other threads
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Follow Up By: Member - Kingsley N (SA) - Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 13:22

Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 13:22
In 2002 I went down to Strath to purchase the
Outback battery and charging cable. They showed me the small factory where they were assembling the batteries. There were about three or four people working on them. I am not sure if that place is still there. The guy told me that if the internal pack (AGM made in USA) ever failed it was a simple job to replace it at a reasonable cost.

Home of 12 volt has a big presence in SA at the Caravan and Camping type shows. Always friendly and cooperative. Good specials too.

Kingo
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Reply By: Holden4th - Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 20:56

Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 20:56
I rang Waeco today and found out the following:

The Monsoon was discontinued 2 and a half years ago therefore the battery is at least this age.

Waeco can't honour a warranty as this model is discontinued.

The battery, if it hasn't been regularly used, should work well.

It will recharge while driving the same way the latest RAPS 36 will.

The minimum it will run my fridge continuously is 24 hours before things start to run down.

It will need to be fully recharged at some stage with a battery charger (same as the RAPS 36)

With these caveats the techie didn't see any reason why I shouldn't buy it provided I could get TJM to give me their own 12 months guarantee.

Sounds like the way to go. How can I quickly check the integrity of the battery?
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Follow Up By: Holden4th - Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 21:03

Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 21:03
Derek, what do you think of this advice? As a professional in the business I took your endorsement of the product seriously and will buy this on Thursday. Is there any way I can check how well this battery holds a charge?
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 21:37

Monday, Feb 18, 2008 at 21:37
The only way is a Discharge Test
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Follow Up By: Mainey (wa) - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:24

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 08:24
If it has NO WARRANTY as stated, why would you even think about buying it ??

If it's AT LEAST 2 years old, why would you consider buying it ??

It will most probably have started to "sulphate" @ 2 years old with-out being on a charger and that is the start of the slow DEATH of any battery.

Why not spend the money on a decent AGM battery, it will last longer and be a much larger capacity and be NEW, if your unsure then check the date stamped on the battery case.

Mainey . . .
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Reply By: 318 cruiser - Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 16:06

Tuesday, Feb 19, 2008 at 16:06
These things are made by home of 12v in strath SA they have been on sold by engel, waeco, lightforce, kookaburra, & now evacool. The lack of warranty does not suprise me these guys are sharks. Across the road from their factory they sold a francise with the promise they wouldn't sell from the factory and they sell direct cheaper than the guy across the road can compete with. From my dealing with their store in Pooraka and strath good luck getting any help out of them at all if you have any trouble.
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Reply By: Holden4th - Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 19:15

Saturday, Feb 23, 2008 at 19:15
Thanks to everyone for their valuable input. Based on this I went back to TJM and asked if they would be prepared to warrant the Monsoon themselves for 12 months - the answer was, not surprisingly, NO! I then asked to see all the literature that came with the battery along with cables etc. There was nothing, not even a box for it. The guy there couldn't tell me how old it was, whther it was used or new, why there were no jumper cables or charging cables, etc.

The upshot was that I bought a brand new Waeco RAPS 36 instead. It'll run my fridge for at least 24 hours, is brand new, comes with a warranty and suits my purposes. For $270 I suppose I can't complain. If I look after it it should last for quite a while.
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Follow Up By: Holden4th - Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 08:15

Sunday, Feb 24, 2008 at 08:15
Speaking of looking after it, to what voltage should I charge it when using a mains charger at home. The RAPS came out of the box at 12.8 yet the picture on the Waeco brochure show 13.2 and I heard somewhere that it'll go close to 14. However, I believe you can overcharge these (and subsequently ruin them). The manual that came with the battery is not very helpful in this regard.
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