coleman--refilling bottles

Submitted: Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:18
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there have been some posts about refilling the green coleman gas bottles ,using a hose and adaptor from america. anybody that has one or used one, are they reasonably safe to use and and has anybody had any problems with them,and how many times would it be safe to refill these gas bottles
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Reply By: AdrianLR (VIC) - Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:44

Thursday, Feb 28, 2008 at 22:44
Called a Mac coupler. I bought one from this seller on ebay:

Mac Coupler

Works well, easy to use and great value (economically and environmentally)

I've only refilled a few times so far so can't comment on how many times it is possible. An easy check with some soapy water. Only trick is to put the empty cylinder into the freezer for around 20 mins before filling so that you get the full 900g in.

Adrian
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Reply By: Faulic_McVitte - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 08:03

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 08:03
purchased from RVingoutpost MacCoupler postage was think $12. You can purchase 2 for same postage.

Bought Coleman roadtrip party grill last year in the US and great little barbie. See Rvingoutpost is getting them in stock. Get the MacCoupler and the roadtrip in one parcel.
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:01

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:01
Been using a MacCoupler for nearly 12mths now , easy as , just have to remember that the coleman canister has to be totally empty and chilled for 15/20 min to efect a full transfer. Buy it now from any of the sellers in the USA as our $ is high so the exchange rate is almost =.
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Follow Up By: Moose - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 14:31

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 14:31
G'day Axel
Do you know whether it would be possible to refill from something smaller than the recommended 9kg bottle? I don't own any 9.0s, but do have a 4.5.
Cheers from the Moose
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 16:21

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 16:21
Moose ,9kg- 4.5kg- 4kg - any size even those big household ones.
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Follow Up By: Moose - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 16:23

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 16:23
Excellent - thanks for that Axel
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Reply By: Ron173 - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:38

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 09:38
Excellent item, I use one, totally safe unless given to a moron.

(you know the type who would smoke whilst using it!)

Refill as many times as you like, I just chuck them once they look a bit daggy or any sign of rust.

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Follow Up By: Crackles - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:00

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:00
I hope the MacCoupler comes with a good set of safety instructions as there is a little bit more to refilling gas bottles than just not smoking nearby & probably why one needs to do an appreciation course to be able to officially do it.
Out of intrest aren't the Coleman bottles disposable & do they come with a warning not to refill?
Cheers Craig..........
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:17

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:17
Crackles ,, safety is one thing , having to do courses for common sense is another aspect of occupation / workplace health and safety officers trying to justify their own jobs ,, bet that the 14/16 yr old refilling your gas bottle at the servo ect is 'officially able to do it" ....licensing gone mad.LOL.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:37

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 10:37
As we all know common sense is not so common, some people requiring a bit of extra knowlege to avoid blowing themselves up. I suppose I'm more referring to where you refill the bottle, away from electrical appliances, in a well venterlated area allowing for static charge etc, a few things the average Joe buying a cheap refill device may not know. Possibly rather than placing a disposable bottle in the freezer then refilling, it may be better to get a regular gas bottle & the hose adaptor to fit the Coleman or better still buy buy a non Coleman unit that doesn't use disposable bottles at all.
Cheers Craig.............
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:16

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:16
I agree with Crackles.

I've got the Coleman HWS and the space heater that looks like Darth Vader and use a 4kg bottle and the adapter hose.

This combo works well. No mucking around.

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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:21

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:21
The reason Coleman tells you not to refill them might have something to do with PROFIT , don't you think?

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Follow Up By: Gerhardp1 - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:27

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:27
Forgot to add -

If a gas bottle can be filled once and be stored and used safely, which part of the bottle becomes so unsafe once it is empty that it can't be refilled?

Does the canister become thinner and subject to exploding?

Does the seal around the fitting suddenly fail?

I imagine that neither of the above applies, but the unit might rust after a period of time (which could also happen to a new one), or the fitting could become worn from multiple usage. This could cause a leak, but then that can happen on ANY gas appliance where a user is careless enough to use something that smells of gas. Any gas coupling can be a source of leak if not secured properly, rubber seals perish, brass seals burred, etc.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:33

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 11:33
Gonebush , so u claim no mucking around when using the adaptor hose ? what do you do when you want to use both the heater and the hws at the same time ??? The whole point of the coleman "disposable " canister is to provide portabillity ,not very portable if connected to a hose and a heavy 4/9 kg gas bottle is it !!?? Refilling your own cannisters is such a quick and easy process and is another way of monitoring how much gas u are actually using.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:37

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 12:37
To each his own Axel.

If I ever wanted to use both things at the same time, and so far I haven't, I'd get another hose and bottle.

One man's mucking around is another man's tinkering, I guess.

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Follow Up By: Ron173 - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 13:21

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 13:21
Geez didnt this remark kick off the proverbial can of worms!

I forgot the OH and S police would be about.

The original poster asked for opinions on use, thats what I gave him.

Its exactly why we have to do a course for a course etc etc etc, to protect the BLATANTLY stupid.

self regulation will get them.

USA been refilling these for years, also think on the recycle point too. (for our kids)

How long or how many decades would it take for a coleman bottle to degrade in a land fill, cos thats where most of em end up.

As I said TOP device, some people just need to decide if they are mature enough and sensible enough to use it.

If you are stupid, dont get one...... also dont drive a vehicle, or operate a BBQ, as you might get equally hurt here too.

GET REAL!!!!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 14:50

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 14:50
Ron,

I hope that my choice of adapter hose and gas bottle instead of re-filling the little Coleman thingy doesn't automatically put me in your "stupid" category.

I chose not to get a Coleman bottle at all when I made my purchases because of the re-cycling issue.
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Reply By: Member - swagman(VIC) - Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 15:26

Friday, Feb 29, 2008 at 15:26
thank you for the responses,i will think a bit more on which way to go---u.s adaptor or gas bottle fitting.i have the coleman ceramic heater and i am thinking of getting a coleman 2-3 burner cooker with bbq plate .the 3 burner one, on special at anaconda for club members with bonus plate + hose and grease cup valued at $39.00.is this a good buy?thanx again for responses
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