When fuelling up with diesel at a servo.

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When fuelling up with diesel at a servo , and another vechicle pulls up behind you, Do you leave your vechicle there and wander off and pay,? or move forward as a polite guesture and let the next one in? Reason i'm asking?, there was a big blu down at our local servo today, in regard to this situation, thankfully it wasn't me!

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 19:49

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 19:49
I have seen a servo with a sign that said Do not move your car before paying, doing so will result in prosecution.

I believe if they want to they can charge you with driving off even if it a few metres.

Cheers Steve.

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Follow Up By: Member - Roachie (SA) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 19:59

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 19:59
Damn!! Surely that would be unproductive for the servo????!!!!

So, you pull forward by 6 meters to let the next vehicle in.....then you walk into the servo; only to be "attached" by the servo owner/operator with words like "You're in deep chit mate, I'm gunna take you to court for a drive off.....the Police have been called....wait here for them to arrive....by the way, your total is $157.15, how do you want to pay?........would you like one of our special offers, 2 choc bars for the price of 1?

Sorry, it just don't sound legit to me!!! By the time Mr Plod got there only to find out that the criminal driver was still waiting there at the servo, I think it would be the servo operator who would be in the P00!!

In my case I have diesel and LPG. Yesterday at Port Wakefield, I filled up with LPG first, then had to back up and around the corner to get to the diesel. I just did so and then went in and paid. No questions asked; no police called.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:05

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:05
I did ask and the answer was if they wanted to, but I agree with you 100%.

I often fill up 4 cars in the morning and send them on there way, or fill the car and then move to fill the boat, the mob at Mobil Jairu couldn't care less.

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark P (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:06

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:06
You should not move till you have paid and besides if the servo is controlled by a Computer 'point of sale' system it is a waste of time moving on because the operator needs (suppose) to process the sale before allowing the pump to start again. Unless you do what Roachie does......

And what is the big deal about waiting a few more minutes. Life is to short to get into arguments. Saying that, I'm sure your question will open a can of worms. LOL

I would say pay before you go.....If they are that impatient, let them go to another servo :-)

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:15

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:15
Mark
Part 1 of your reply is wrong, the computer can store the transaction and then continue with another.

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:43

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:43
They can say that but they are not the ones to prosecute, the cops are.

You can move your car all you want..and as long as you pay for the petrol there will never be an issue.

If you have no INTENT to steal...there is no stealing. FULL STOP.

The management may ask you to never to fill up there again but that's another issue.
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Follow Up By: Steve from Top End Explorer Tours - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:10

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:10
I can't remember where, but years ago I had to pay before I put fuel in.

Eromanga in SW QLD fuel was 1.46 per lt as they refine on site, you had to walk 200+ metres to pay, I asked how many did a runner, he said heap, but they are on camera.

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Follow Up By: Dunco (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:51

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:51
You WILL NOTT and CANNOT be charged if you move your car away from the bowser to let someone else in. Proofs for stealing include "Taking and carrying away"...and you are not doing that. Cops would laugh at the console operator.

Besides, let the other person wait...everyone is in too much of a hurry today.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 04:43

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 04:43
Steve
200 m ....exercise mate...willl do ya good, as good as changing tyres....lol


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Follow Up By: Squizzy - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:24

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:24
You are not stealing until you leave the property, so if you wish to move your vehicle as a courteous action, it be an issue.
Let them call the cops and stand back and laugh as the console operator tries to explain to the cops the reason for the call as you stand there waiting to pay.

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Follow Up By: Squizzy - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:26

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:26
insert "shouldn't" in the first sentencebetween 'it' and 'be'.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (WA) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:41

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:41
Even if you left the property without paying you still are not necessarily stealing...it may have been an honest mistake and for what ever reason you forget to pay. It happens all the time. INTENT still has to be proved, at least here in WA anyway.
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Follow Up By: Member - Patrol Geoff (QLD) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 22:06

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 22:06
Steve from Top End Explorer Tours, I've come across the paying before you fill, but not in Oz. Work sent me to Canada some years back. First time I went to fill up I pulled in at the servo, put the nozzle in the tank and waited. And waited. And waited.

I went into the shop and asked the guy if the pumps were working. He looked at me strangely and said I had to pay first. I said I wanted it filled had no idea how much it would cost as I hadn't actually filled it. And since the price was related to gallons I had no idea even approximately what it would cost.

Either he thought I looked honest, or he picked the crazy aussie accent because he let me fill it up and then I went in and paid.

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Follow Up By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 22:27

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 22:27
geoff
I also done the waiting game like you in Nebraska , and like you went in to find out what's going on,
Some people hate the idea of Australia following every thing the Yanks do, Rather follow the Yanks than the Arabs anyday, Australian .....Gas Stations ....lol should have started that practice years ago, would solve the runner problem,

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Reply By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 19:54

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 19:54
Tell the person who is aggro he/she needs counselling.....lol

Normally the Minister for Finance goes to pay and I will on occasions, drive forward, if there is a long queue.If onb my own, they can wait.

A couple days ago in Qld I was pumping the tyres at a servo. Had to go to the shop to get the nozzle. Then when finished the fella behind me says "Hey, I want to do mine"...so I says " You can get it at the shop like everyone else" and returned the nozzle to the bloke in the blue shirt. Fella parked behind me scowled, but I ignored him....lol


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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:00

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:00
Gawd your a hard Bugger!!!, but you!! had to walk for it, that was the system at that location so be it!

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Follow Up By: Nick R (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:17

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:17
wasn't that mechanic again was it???
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Follow Up By: Willem - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:57

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:57
Nick


Two bricks
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Follow Up By: Nick R (VIC) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:52

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:52
ya lost me old boy, Judith, you better get him assessed, he is talking gibberish again, maybe the wrong pills today
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:14

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:14
Listen here young fella.................

I was being nice :-)

As thick as two bricks.

Incident I referred to was in Queenlsand. Mechanic episode was in SA. Please consult your GPS



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Follow Up By: Nick R (VIC) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:19

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:19
now I'm with ya, thick as 2 short planks
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Follow Up By: pathfinder - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 13:21

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 13:21
great attitude...

karma's a b*tch...
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Reply By: DIO - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:20

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:20
If you happen to move your vehcle oout of the way of someone who is waiting, particularly if it is for diesel and there's only 1 pump, I think it is only being courteous. As for being charged, no way, even if you drive off home it still has to be proven that you 'failed to pay'. Stating that you forgot, thought someone else had, it was a medical emergency etc and went back to the servo and offered payment - with an apology, ther's no way Police would be bothered getting involved. They have better things to do. After all, it was the servos that wanted self serve, stating it would lead to cheaper petrol etc for the consumer. Now and then they get ripped off and everyone is branded as a criminal.
In all the times I have moved my vehicle out of the way, I have never (NEVER) been spoken to by an assistant regarding the matter. They wouldn't want to try either.
By the way, an astute (switched on, aleert and observant) operator can manage to put your transaction on hold whilst they activate the pump for the next customer. Something about customer service and satisfaction. Some refer to it as 'service delivery'.
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:29

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:29
An astute switched on, alert observant operater, can put your transaction on hold whilst they activate the pump for the next customer!! ( If only they were all like it!!!.)

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:34

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:34
I do it all the time for the diesel pump.....BUT you get the look from the attendant untill they see you heading for the car spot instead of the exit!! lol

NOW don't get me started on the one car blocking the diesel pump while there are 57 vacant unleaded ones AND then leaving it there while they pay!! GRRRRRRRRRR

Cheers Stefan

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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:53

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:53
NOW don't get me started on the one car blocking the diesel pump while there are 57 vacant unleaded ones AND then leaving it there while they pay!! GRRRRRRRRRR


Hehehehehehe yes this is a pet peeve of mine too Stefan.
Tho now both the garages i use at Heathcote have more than one Diesel pump and in different lanes after they finally twigged that there are more diesel users these days.
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Follow Up By: Mogul - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:05

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:05
And they also check the oil, water, washer fluid, tyre pressure and then finally decide that all the windows need a clean.

I nearly pushed him out of the way!!!!!!!
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Follow Up By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:07

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:07
Last time I was in Katherine, I did the LPG thing. Then as I went to go to the diesel a BMW (not a real flash one though) pulled into the diesel bay to check oil, wash windscreen etc.....he very nearly got a bit of a push, but I went past him, reversed up to within inches of the front of his car, a bit wider so he couldn't get past me, leant on his car while filling, bought stuff from the shop and had a leak.....I wonder if he got the message, he wasn't too happy sitting in the car waiting for me!
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:57

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:57
I had one fool that went around me to get to the LPG while i was filling my diesel which i had just about finished. He backed up nice and close to my front bumper which wasn't a real problem til there came another diesel user who stopped right behind me not noticing the idiot in front of me.
I just shook my head and went in and paid, then i came out and got the guy behind me to reverse a bit so i could escape and he could fill up.
If the idiot on the LPG had had the patience to wait 5 minutes he would have had a straight shot at the lpg and the guy behind me would have been able to fill straight away too.
I mentioned to him that it must be wonderful to be sooooo important that you don't have to consider whether your actions are causing inconvenience to others.......i finished with a "You're a selfish **** aren't you" . Looking at his face i still don't reckon he got it but the big fella in the diesel behind me was pee'd off too so he may have enlightened him, i hope so...
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 10:17

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 10:17
Didn't answer the original question ....yes i move forward if i can and if its not too busy i get the operator's attention and point to a spare parking spot before i move to it, but only if i am a regular user. i just use commonsense in a strange garage watching what the locals do.
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Reply By: Member - Graham H (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:55

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 20:55
Well being a Kiwi and our custom is to move it or else. I have quite often moved up out of the way and surprisingly got thanked for it with the comment" Where are you from No one does that here" ( In Queensland)
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:01

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:01
HAHAHAHAHA!!, You have just lit a fuse!

Cheers Axle.
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Reply By: RustyHelen - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:00

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:00
Show some consideration and move your vehicle a few metres from the pump to allow the next vehicle in. The wonders of modern electronics ensure you pay for yours while the next car can begin their spending. Just remember your number and total as a check.
Rusty
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Reply By: Patrolman Pat - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:02

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:02
I always move on and haven't had any problems from the console operater.
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Reply By: bob&loz - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:07

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:07
Not hard to get agro when someone uses the only diesel pump and then goes of to pay and spends the next 20 min wandering around the shop, using the toilet etc before coming back.

Or like the day I was in a busy station with long queue at each pump and as the front car moved of this girl drove down between the lines, parked in front of the front pump, then got out and went into the shop and walked around for 10 min bought something and left.
didnt even get fuel and there was heaps of parking bays empty.
talk about inconsiderate.
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Reply By: mowing - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:09

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:09
I was getting some gas the other day and this guy was filling with gas on the other side. He had one of those window cleaner sponges that they provide and did the front window, side widows and back window. Then starts on the inside windows. The gas had long since finished filling. Meanwhile there was a woman in a patrol with a couple of kids waiting to fill up and she is getting hot under the collar and we start talking about the guys antics. The guy finally finishes and goes to pay, on the way out he stops to re arrange his wallet,make sure he has all his cards, check what that receipt was for a week ago,( you get the picture.) Well, the mother gives him a serve and he gives her one back. I reckon that he was going to punch her and I would have to grab him and call the cops.
Motto: Don;t hold up a mother with a couple of kids with places to go as it may affect your health!
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Reply By: obee - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:30

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:30
god! a rage for all seasons. We all need counselling before we get out of bed in the morning

the guy behind is going to punch me for not moving and the servo man will punch me for moving. then I drive onto the road and someone thinks I cut him off. the bloke behind me punches me cos I did not cut the other bloke off quick enough. the cop charges me with assault cos I argued with him and the ambulance man curses me cos I spoilt his day. I go to church to ask forgiveness and the priest sexually abuses me. And now they tell me the prozac is not working and viagra is not good for my health.

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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:40

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:40
HAHAHAHAHA!, Very true mate!!, But just laugh and the world will laugh with you

Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:02

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:02
Obee,

Just take a heap of Viagra before you attempt any of this. Shouldn't be a problem, at least people in front of you in the queue will want to get out of the way in a hurry.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:15

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:15
Nice one Obee - and more truth in it than many would wish to see.
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Reply By: Crackles - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:35

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:35
With the huge increase in people driving off without paying Shell in particular changed their policy to call the cops 1st & sort it out later. Obviously individual operators use their own discretion.
Different servo's seem to have different policies, some with signage telling you not to move, others having special parking bays to get you out of the way. Common courtesy surly is to move it........now don't get me started on cars that come in the wrong direction! Grrrr
Cheer Craig.............
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Reply By: Stephen M (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:40

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:40
Obviously is depends on how big the line is, but if some one is sitting behind me when I fill up they usually get the sh its and move as pumping in around 150 litres takes time and by the time I fill up they move to the next pump anyway, but I do move forward if they are still behind waiting. Usually they will give you a wave to say thankyou. Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Member - Axle - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:51

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 21:51
Thirsty things those prados!!!?....lol.

A bit of courtesy goes a long way eh Steve!.


Cheers Axle.
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:25

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:25
Not to bad, around 15/17L per 100 round town, average 12/13L on freeway sitting on 110k, 20/22 on stockton, 12.8L towing camper sitting on the speed limits but that is straight freeway driving no off road Penrith to Harrington (near Taree). Any where between 15/20 off road low range. But I only do just under 16k a day to and from work 3 days a week the other 2 I take the wifes car so not too worried about economy.
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Reply By: Member - Davidp P (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:00

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:00
If you move yr vehicle they would have to prove you had no intention to pay ,yr on camera most times in big cities and major hwys which would protect you from any charge. Just indicate to the person behind you will move forward , just dont have a brain fade......silverback
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Reply By: Member - Roger B (VIC) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:24

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:24
At Turkey Creek, in the Kimberley, a few years ago, they wouldn't even turn the pump on unless you went in and handed over a wad of cash first ! No good protesting. The pump remained dead 'til they had cash. A $50.00 note at least. Or your credit card.
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Reply By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:36

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:36
after working for %^&* for nearly 6 yrs, and Nath in his 9th, I can tell ya know that when people move their car to be polite is actually being rude to the person behind the counter.

Im from a servo that averages out at 110 customers an hour....250 around xmas. Its hard enough putting up with people changing their minds about their smokes, changing drinks, getting the chips they forget and then trying to figure out which car is theirs, the last thing needed is a car that moves away from the pump.....plus if the person who moves takes their time and the person they were polite to fills and moves their car, then person number 3 wants to fill but the concol wont allow a 3rd, then they get bleep cos its"not working properly".........its a cofufal and can cost a servo money when people are charge wrong amounts.....

Never move, stuff the person behind you and be polite to the person who works there....

Just my advice from the industry!
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 23:10

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 23:10
Great to get the other side to the story....now I can't remember the pump number, I'm the green car at the back and a pack of smokes 'luv...no no no not those ones the white pack next to them...Hurry up I'm late for work...HE HE HE HE

Cheers Stefan
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Follow Up By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:03

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:03
"....and sir I spose you'd like your oil dropped and car checked over while your here! Why dont I just lay under your car and do a full going over while Im there!"

said this to a bloke who was wasting my time asking me to do everything for him...even had the guts to ask for a discount! hahahaha!!!

have a good'n'.

ps....I actually move our car.....but thats cos I need to go in and get Naths pay while Im there and do a little paperwork too!
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Follow Up By: jeepthing - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:09

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 08:09
What's the point of moving? The cashier operator can't clear the pump until the previous fill has been paid for anyway!!!
I haven't seen any agro yet, the only frustration for me is that servos do not have enough diesel pumps and this needs to be addresed considering the increase in the number of diesel vehicles on the road now.
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:21

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:21
Cofufal???? Hmmmmm...I suppose you mean kerfuffle...hahahaha


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Follow Up By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:19

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 11:19
yeah thats it Willem.....!!!
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 16:48

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 16:48
At $1.50 a litre for fuel and $2.50 for a bottle of water I think I've paid for the right to make the console opperator work for their money if it makes it easier for us the customers ;-)
Cheers Craig............
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:20

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:20
Damn customers!

They get in the way of the smooth running of a business!
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 18:54

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 18:54
I think it is called customer service. Could be wrong though, maybe these businesses are run out of the goodness of the owner's heart for our benefit.
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Follow Up By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 06:27

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 06:27
Craig,
At 150cpl the boss is still getting 2cpl and the water, when he made himself 33c.....so say you got yourself 100l of ya diesel and ya water, he has made himself $2.33.....really worth his effort hey to want a customer back who thinks he's king %^&*. Sorry...but thats how its thought of, plus that aint making the csa work for their money...LOL....thats funny thinking mate!!

Treat others the way you want to be treated....simple....

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Follow Up By: jeepthing - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 09:04

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 09:04
I know all this can be frustrating but if people considered the pressure employees are under at a busy service station and just accepted there will be a wait everyone would be better off I think. What's the point of getting the blood pressure up the real looser is the person who is getting agro about it no one else.

There needs to be some procedure at a busy servo and where are you going to park anyway normally there aren't many spots close.

I observed an instance recently where a vehicle moved at a Woolies caltex to go and pay and a fellow who had fueled his vehicle with unleaded at a pump in another cue walked down with a 20l jerry can and filled it with 20l of diesel and went back to his vehicle. The vehicle who had been waiting then moved in to fill with diesel. Someone from the checkout came out wanting to know why the guy had filled with 20l then wanted to fill again as it causing a problem at the checkout in terms of clearing the 20l before they would start the pump for the next fill. It was lucky that I had seen the guy come down with the 20l can otherwise the fellow who had moved in to fill his vehicle could have been charged for the 20l!!!
Anyway I found out when I went to pay that the guy who had come down with the can had not paid for it and had stolen the 20l.
So this is an example of why you shouldn't move your vehicle. I think there's far too much agro in this world and we wil be far better off if everyone gave each other a fair go!!!
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 17:16

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 17:16
I'm sorry if my filling up with fuel & buying a bottle of water has inconvenienced their day. In future I will try to find only empty servos so as not to overload the console operator with too many decisions. I don't know what I was thinking expecting service for my custom ;-))
If I was the owner I would appreciate people moving forward. This would ensure I made more $2.33 sales each day.
As for your example Jeepy it was the console operators own fault for initiating the diesel bowser without 1st looking where the fuel was going & really the same thing could & does happen if people don't move forward with some filling jerrys beside the car after it's hung up. If one is filling a different fuel to the car then there is often no other way to do it.
Either way it doesn't matter. I will continue to thank those that make space for me and show courtesy by shifting for others. For those that don't shift there's no point losing sleep and to the operators sorry but the "Customer is alway right" :-)
Cheers Craig.............
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Follow Up By: JimDi - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:24

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:24
Thanks for that Kiwi. I never move until I pay and I was beginning to think that I was the one in the wrong. I cannot see how moving aside would work in a large roadside servo. Maybe in a quieter servo with only a few customers.
Jim
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Reply By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:37

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 22:37
I should add that when we were busy, ie 150+ customers an hour...100+ was a normal day....if a person moved I charged them the larger amount saying that they could be lying and that there are signs saying not to move......it worked I tell ya!!! really made people think!!
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Reply By: Footloose - Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 23:03

Sunday, Mar 02, 2008 at 23:03
I've waited for trucks to fill up with 300L of diesel. I've sat and waited for cars to fill up, scratch themselves etc.. etc. etc.. I've waited for buses to fill up. I've waited for tankers to fill the garage up.
I've had people knowingly drive the wrong way into a garage, and the wrong way at the pumps. I've been abused because I couldn't find the diesel pump (round the side).

Do I get out of the way after filling ? If it's some bad mannered dill gunning his engine and glaring at me, NO WAY. They can damm well wait. If it's a car that's politely sitting and waiting, yes I will.

Quite frankly I'm sick of people who live their lives in a perpetual state of selfish conflict. Grow up, a few seconds more or less won't stuff your day.

Wait politely. Say thanks, give them a wave and a smile, it will make more days than just yours.

Remember that in the end we're all going to the same place. And you don't want to be in a hurry to get THERE. :))
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Follow Up By: Willem - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:25

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:25
Very wise words, sir :-)
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Follow Up By: Bware (Tweed Valley) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:16

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:16
Yep, well said. If you get stressed by people holding you up on your way to work or wherever, there is a simple remedy; LEAVE A FEW MINUTES EARLIER.
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Reply By: psproule - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 06:24

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 06:24
I moved mine forward once at the local shell and copped a very large ear-full in front of all the other customers by the owner. This, despite the fact that I was a long standing fleet customer who they knew.
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Reply By: Turist - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 06:51

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 06:51
Seems to me after reading all the above posts that the sign "Do not move without paying" in servos is misleading and the servo's should be forced to remove or change it. Any thoughts on this? What purpose does it serve?
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Follow Up By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:12

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:12
Its not misleading at all....its telling you something just like the turn your car off signs and the no smoking signs. You need to work in a servo for a while just to see how painfull it is when someone moves away...

They should not be forced to remove it at all. In fact I believe there should be tyre spikes in the ground to stop cars from moving!

Now if I sign says that you will be prosecuted if you move, thats different....it will cost them to take you to court and its not worth it...that kind of sign is a threat. Even when people are caught for a drive off, there is no point taking them to court, (ie for large amounts, which is quite common these days, a small one is $50,) because you have to pay and as long as you get the money out of them , which the cops organise, then its all good and you keep signs up remembering their rego!

Obviously Turist, you dont give a bleep about the people who work there.....
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:27

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 07:27
I've actually done a drive off without paying......I didn't moove the car, was at the local, they weren't busy (virtually no one there)...got the manditory mars bar and ice coffee, put them on the counter, said gday to the local who has served me countless times, quoted my account number, signed the sheet of paper and drove home.

10 minutes later I get a cal from him.......'arr did you get some diesel when you were in here quater of an hour ago'.....'yep, didn't even look at the slip I signed, can you chuck it on account *** or do you want me to come down and sign for it'

It was all good, but could have been a bit sticky if I wasn't local....I seem to remember a forumite a year or so back made a similar mistake, but on a trip not at the local, and was in a little strife.....

I look at the paper I'm signing a little closer now

Cheers Andrew
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Reply By: Member - kevin Y (SA) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:13

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 09:13
what a laugh ---bit sticky this one ----got me smokes and paper at the local servo had a mag as it was a quiet time ----got home and twigged i never paid for my fuel ----went back and owned up --had another laugh when they got the black book out and i was in it
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Reply By: Go-N-Grey (WA) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 10:41

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 10:41
Hey,
Remember the days when you sat in your car, a polite attendant would fill your car, clean your windshield, and ask to check your oil.

You even on many occassions if travelling got information on road conditions and local attractions.

You then gave them cash, and they went and got change.

I dont remember rage then, but then there were hundreds more servos out there rather than the supermarket fuel depots we now see.

I also remember when self serve came in and at some stations where there were still attendants if you served yourself, you got chastised by the attendant for being impatient.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 16:32

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 16:32
I remember when all the servos in Adelaide were closed after 6pm weekdays and after 12 on Saturdays. Wasn't that long ago.
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Follow Up By: BMKal - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:08

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:08
We're fortunate enough to still have one garage that provides old fashioned driveway service in Kalgoorlie. I always get my fuel from Shell Boulder for this reason. It may cost a little extra, but I still prefer to support the local business that offers a good service, and will not, out of principle, ever purchase fuel from any outlet which has association with a supermarket chain.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:29

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:29
I think it was the late 80s, maybe early 90s and I'd been in California for a couple of weeks, been happily filling my RV at various petrol stations (not really taking note of the price) when one day a very pleasant chap of about 70 years was filling my vehicle and a couple of youngsters in a pick-up drove in and asked if this was a "self fill", or something similar, he replied "No but I often wish it was". Chatting with him I discovered there were two types of petrol station - self service or served and you paid a small premium for the served ones which also checked the oil etc etc - always seemed a good system to me.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 12:55

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 12:55
ROFLMAO

Just confirms that a lot of you are farrrrrrrr too carried away with your own self importance. A couple of minutes out of your life waiting to fill up...... big deal.

As for the ever whinging diesel owners, if there were enough of you the servos would cater for you. Is that a hard concept to grasp ????????

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Follow Up By: Member - Duke (TAS) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 22:53

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 22:53
Gramps,
Couldn,t agree more.What is it with a lot of people on this Forum.I had the impression you were all fairly laid back good ole boys but this post has certainly shown your true colours.Slow down a bit and smell the roses as they say.
Two years ago i was met at the door by the console operator at Barkly Homestead when i told my wife to park the 4wd and Van while i went in and paid.
They claimed that two Vanners had done a runner a couple of hours before and the price of fuel had gone up a couple of cents a litre till the loss was recouped.
Dammed if you do and dammed if you dont.
Duke
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Follow Up By: Gramps (NSW) - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 23:09

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 23:09
Duke,

LOL it must be something in their water. I have serious doubts some of them will live long enough to sniff the roses. There's far more important things to worry about than this stuff.

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Reply By: Motherhen - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:52

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 17:52
We haven't been arrested yet.

With a caravan which may be also covering the next pump access, i get out while Rooster moves away and parks. I go pay, then we both may use the conveniences, and buy a drink or snack. Business goes on at the bowsers meanwhile. No short fuses have a chance at going off.

It is annoying having to wait for an unreasonable time (ie lots more time than it takes to pay and make a small purchase) while the queue builds up, particularly if the next bowser is being blocked. I understand that times have changed, but just because of the 1% dishonest factor, we shouldn't all be penalised.

Another selfish aspect occurs when we have to park a bit further back to wait for a bowser, as the caravan will block the traffic flow, then the idiot factor comes in from the opposite direction to beat us to the bowser, and a few of his ilk follow his idea. That can cause a short fuse explosion.

At home it is not an issue - fill, move and park out of the way, go and pay.

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Reply By: mowing - Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 18:39

Monday, Mar 03, 2008 at 18:39
After reading the above, I think that I will use the BP Card that I have (the one that starts up the bowsers at the depots) If I do this at 2 am there shouldn't be anyone there that I can upset.
If I go to my local servo and don't move after I have filled up the guy behind me is going to punch me, If I move the servo owner is going to punch me. It is just too dangerous to fill up!!

Mark
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Reply By: _gmd_pps - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:22

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 02:22
I usually fill up the boat first (Premium Unleaded) and then move to the truck lane for Diesel. Never had a problem and the cashier would not upset me otherwise he misses out on 500-600$ each time I fill up my combo.
have fun
gmd
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:17

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 05:17
I asked at the local BP on the Pacific Hwy what their policy was on moving forward after filling "no problem".

If you don't leave the premises, the worst they can do is get annoyed - it's not theft until you leave the premises without paying.
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Reply By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 12:49

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 12:49
Most city servos have heeeps of pumps and if they are busy i continue on . country servos often less so and usually i want to use the dunny stretch my legs buy food etc so i park up then go in
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Reply By: JimDi - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:33

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:33
I guess the most annoying part of the "system" is that I notice of late that the larger servos that I use in Brisbane have removed the ability to swipe my eftpos card at the pump. I found this to be a suitable system for myself. But obviously it had its problems otherwise it would still be in use.
Jim
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