Costs of bringing a car to AUST from UK..cheap 4x4's

Submitted: Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:23
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Been looking on Ebay UK and have found an 03' TD Landcruiser Sarah spec for $36000 start bid. It has 68000 Miles. So around 110 000Kms. fair bit cheaper than you can get here. I wonder if there is a good business case there???

Ahh we can only dream

landcruiser

In contrast I saw a 99 TI spec 2.8TD Patrol, yes they did them over there. Finish for $7300...with 170000 kms

Bloody cheap hey

Cheers Stefan
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Reply By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:37

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:37
Import laws wont allow things under 15yrs old unless you have owned it registered in your own name in the other country.. pretty sure thats the wording of it....
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Follow Up By: Isuzumu - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:42

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:42
ou just beat me there Bruce
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:44

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:44
Shame... 30k cheaper is tempting
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Follow Up By: Member - JohnR (Vic)&Kath - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 08:27

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 08:27
so stefan, you think it will finish at that price? Don't forget all the oncosts too. Waht is $30k cheaper?
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:04

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:04
Finished with NO bids....the landcruiser is about 30k cheaper over there to what it is here

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Reply By: Isuzumu - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:41

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:41
Hi Stefan I think that they have to be over 15 years old before you can import any second hand 4X4 into Aus unless you have owned it and lived with it over seas. Why now we can not get an Isuzu MUs Hiluxs Surfs in anymore unless the 15 year rule.
This rule came in June 2002 I think.
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:45

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:45
SO when I was over there last year I should have bought one instead of renting a car.

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Reply By: Member -Signman - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:46

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:46
Any good Mini Cooper S or BDA/RS Escorts...???

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Follow Up By: Truckster (Vic) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:47

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:47
yea, cossie on OL is a pom, and brought a cosworth sierra with him, took him nearly 8 mths of screwing around to get aust compliance and rego... even if you found your Escort or mini would it be worth the effort!?
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:49

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:49
Old school ones???
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:53

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:53
Yea Stefan
REAL Minis & Escorts.....
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:56

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 16:56
Like this one????
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Reply By: Steve63 - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 17:03

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 17:03
Looked into doing this in the 80's so info is a bit out of date and probably not relavent any more but I'm sure the rules are just as weird. The taxes were huge even if you did meet all the requirements. You could dodge the costs IF you owned the vehicle for over 12 months and lived at the address it was registered to. If you know a Kiwi there used to be a way around the rules as you could import a car to NZ basically tax free if you were the registered owner and a NZ national. Then you could import the car from NZ to Oz more or less tax free if you were a NZ national. I think there were a few other requirements but what it boiled down to was if you were from NZ you could basically import a car via NZ for a reasonable cost. If you were from Oz you got an automatic 200% import tax unless you met the 12 month rule. The other way was to get a diplomat to import the car. They keep it for a few months and then sell it on. I suspect the rules have changes some what over the years. Back then the rules ensured it was more expensive to import the car yourself. It was fun finding all the loop holes even if I didn't use them.

Steve
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Reply By: Peter 2 - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 18:13

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 18:13
They actually moved the goalposts yet again in 2005 (I think)
The 15 year rule only applies up until 1989 production.
Anything with a production date post 1989 has to come in under the RAWS scheme plus having to be owned overseas.
The RAWS scheme only applies to vehicles that a workshop has decided to 'register' as complying with the rules and have gained compliance for.
DOTARS introduced this change to stop the import of all those Japanese ricer cars apparently.
I've got most of the links to the relative documents if anyone is REALLY interested.
The 30 year rule is still going as far as I know which means you can import anything over 30 years old and apart from basic items like correct headlights and seatbelts (if fitted) it can be registered and driven in LHD without any mods.
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 21:39

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 21:39
Did you go through this with the Humvee?

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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 17:55

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 17:55
No it came in under the 15 year rule, (now pre 1989) which meant that all you had to get was import approval.
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Reply By: Member - Lionel A (WA) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 18:35

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 18:35
Hi Stefan, dont quote me on this one.

I do know a couple of hot rod fanatics who get around most of the import laws by semi stripping a vehicle, loading into a container and importing as 'Second Hand Parts'.

Once here they rebuild the vehicle. Apparently used parts dont attract heavy taxes.

Cheers.....Lionel.
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 18:50

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 18:50
even a fully assembled cruiser could be described as "good for Second Hand Parts" LOL

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Follow Up By: kev.h - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 18:59

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 18:59
Just dont get caught very heavy fine for evading customs also they have been checking up on this avenue and without the proper import papers things get nasty when you go to register it you may have to prove where it came from
not worth the trouble
Kev
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Follow Up By: Member - Geoff T (QLD) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 21:30

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 21:30
very interested in a new chev silverado with all the bells and whistles here appr $150k AUD
in the states a new one with all bells and whistles struggleing to get it past $55k USD not much difference with exchange rate at the moment either
are we being shafted here or what
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 21:38

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 21:38
'are we being shafted here or what'

I can sort of understand the price diff in the UK
when I was there about 18mths ago with the then current ex rate, diesel was about $2.40 a litre. So if your cruiser uses 14lt per hundred $33.40 per hundred is very dear to run. Plus the minimum wage over there is about 5 quid an hour.
Not much demand for them second hand.

But the US pricing has me scratching my head

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Follow Up By: 96 GXL 80 series - Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 22:51

Tuesday, Mar 04, 2008 at 22:51
You could also nearly triple that price with the exchange rate.

you would need about $3.00AU to buy 1 poundUK
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Follow Up By: Member - Leave_enough_space - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 08:01

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 08:01
Exchange rate is 2.15 or thereabouts - not difficult to check??
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Follow Up By: stefan P (Penrith NSW) - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:07

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 12:07
'You could also nearly triple that price with the exchange rate'

You idiot....16999 pounds = $36000 LOOK closer

'you would need about $3.00AU to buy 1 poundUK'

Get with the times 1 pound= $2.40 when I was there in Dec '06
its only getting better for us.

Cheers Stefan
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Follow Up By: Peter 2 - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 18:02

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 18:02
Stefan
There are plenty of people importing and converting the chev utes and cars like Corvette's, one not far from you at Maralya (sp), he specialises in buying very slightly bent ones (body damage only) imports them, replaces what is required and converts them under the RAWS scheme.
Last one I had a ride in really went well, 6.6 litre duramax/auto/duallie/full leather and every accessory known, very nice truck.
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Follow Up By: 96 GXL 80 series - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 19:06

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 19:06
If you had of stayed there you wouldn't be worried about importing or exchange rates, nor the cost of getting it shipped.

Oh and dealing with customs :)))))))))))))))))))))

I see why you would like one looking at your profile idiot.:))))))))))))
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Follow Up By: 96 GXL 80 series - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 19:19

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 19:19
Before anyone gets the wrong idea:

Look at who started the name calling.

You can help some, but others are past the point of no return.:)))))))))))))))))))))))
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Reply By: Dunaruna - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 19:11

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 19:11
The base model manaro in Aus was around AU$60,000.

Lefthand drive conversion, a few twicks here and there, sell it in the U.S as a Pontiac GTO for U.S$35, 000.

Yes, we are being screwed.
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Reply By: Members - Chris/Lindsay (VIC) - Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 20:05

Wednesday, Mar 05, 2008 at 20:05
Be a bit careful as there are proven scams going on with'cheap' cars from overseas. They appear regularly in various car sales mags and sites. Chris.
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