Should 4wd's pay extra to travel in the city vote

Submitted: Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:38
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Looks like it is time to defend our rights again:

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/opinion (vote no!)
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Reply By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:58

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:58
Looks like we are miles behind already in the votes. Wont be long thanks to all the do-gooders. Where were they all on Clean up Australia Day, bet they were not around pulling old dumped cars from creeks etc all done by four wheel drive clubs and all to the cost of the owner of the vehicles. They were probablt sitting out the front of there cafe's drinking latte's Regards Steve M
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:59

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 12:59
I should use spell check " probablt " probably. Regards steve M
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Follow Up By: Stu & "Bob" - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 17:29

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 17:29
People have very short memories...
What about all the 4WD owners who got stuck in and helped "Joe Average" recover their stranded Falcodore in the recent Newcastle floods?

Oops, forgot that this is a Melbourne publication and they take precedence over everybody else.
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Reply By: WayneD - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 13:06

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 13:06
Well, lets get this on respective 4x4 sites and vote. I will place on the landy site today!!
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Reply By: Member - Doug T (FNQ) - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 13:11

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 13:11
Quite honestly I couldn't give a Rat's ass, I hate Big Cities and this is about Melbourne and that's 2800Ks from me .

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Follow Up By: Kumunara (NT) - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 16:04

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 16:04
Doug


I went to Melbourne back in 1972.

Don't know of any reason I'd bother to go back there.




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Follow Up By: Rock Ape - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 18:34

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 18:34
Well you better give a rats or we will send you more rain

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Reply By: Time - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 13:17

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 13:17
If you Clear Private Data in Firefox you can vote as many times as you like!

Shows how unreliable thse sorts of polls can be. Currently No is 50% 8)
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Reply By: Member - John - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 14:10

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 14:10
No's are ahead, so far.
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Reply By: Footloose - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 14:33

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 14:33
Done !
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Reply By: mfewster - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 14:44

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 14:44
Was in Melbourne recently. Traffic unbelievable. They have areal problems. Rather than banning 4WDs, which won't do anything to help the problem any way, I suggest we should contribute to the debate by arguing for banning anything with more than 4cylinders in the inner urban area and demanding better public transport at the same time. I see Melbourne is bringing in free train travel into the city if you travel before 7.00 am. That kind of thinking is better than scapegoating 4WDs and getting into an internet voting blitz (which are usually just set up to increase the number of hits the site has rather than any real attempt to look at the problem.
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Reply By: Stu & "Bob" - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 17:21

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 17:21
Done....

As I, and possibly a good many others only own a 4WD, this could be construed as discrimination.

It looks like it is all encompassing, with no differentiation between 4WD and AWD, so does this mean that vehicles like the Holden Adventra, Cross-8 and many other such like vehicles are included?

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Reply By: Member - Stuart W (NSW) - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 17:53

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 17:53
What about those Hyundai excels with P plates.They seem to do plenty of speeding.What about SS commodores with their six litre engines. They use lots of fuel.Why pick on the four wheel drives.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 20:40

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 20:40
Because logic just doesn't come in to the anti-4WD argument.
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Reply By: Steve Ellis - Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 19:56

Friday, Mar 07, 2008 at 19:56
As I speak 68% against. Who are the kidding. Just another excuse to stick up insurance premiums. Last year I ran over a Honda in my patrol. He was in the wrong and it was not pretty. Still he screamed about 4wd? Makes me wonder
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Reply By: chevypower - Saturday, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:47

Saturday, Mar 08, 2008 at 07:47
ban more than 4cyl? forget it, everyone will want an 8L single piston engine. Ban 4x4? Then everyone will want a 4x2 Landcruiser. Ban SUVs? What if they were hybrid, or diesel hybrid, hydrogen fuel-cell or anything else that's perhaps emissions free? My thoughts are leave everyone alone, and when newer technologies become available to make all cars emissions free, then make them mainstream. But bans, fines, heavy taxes, isn't going to work.
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