Cooper Discoverer St versus BFG All Terrains

Submitted: Thursday, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:00
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I own a 96 Prado GXL and am up for a new set of tyres soon. I currently have Hankook 265 75 R16. Ive been looking at the Cooper Discoverer ST (285 75 R16) and BFG AT's (285 75 R16) Can anyone tell me which is the better tyre and why. Ive been asking around at the dealerships but would like some first hand information from people who have used them. You will notice that i have put 285 75 R16's down. Will i have any trouble with the extra width rubbing on the guards? Thanks Pete
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Reply By: Fred - Thursday, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:00

Thursday, Nov 15, 2001 at 01:00
I had set of Coopers and after numerous punctures decided to switch to BFG. So far so good.
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Reply By: Cairns Offroad Training & Tours - Friday, Nov 16, 2001 at 01:00

Friday, Nov 16, 2001 at 01:00
I used BFG TAs for 20 years and had a great run with them average 70k mileage on numerous vehicles, faults. they are terrible on wet bitumen on the ranges up here and they clog instantly in mud I changed to Cooper ST early this year and have done 30k so far and have been unable to fault them I run them at 34lb on my 80 series far superior to the BFG in the 2 areas mentioned They are also an excellent steer tire We have had a lot of problems with the new KO BFGs up here cracking where the sidewall meets the rim
Cheers Rob
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Follow Up By: Mark - Saturday, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:00

Saturday, Nov 17, 2001 at 01:00
Rob,
I was also looking at the Cooper ST's but as 70% use would be on tarmac i'm not sure if they may be a bit too agressive. How would you compare them on road with the BFG AT's, in wet conditions say.
Cheers
Mark
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Reply By: Cairns Offroad Training & Tours - Sunday, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:00

Sunday, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:00
Coopers are far superior to BFG TAs on wet bitumen with sipes and a water drainage channel thru the centre of the tyre I don't think you will find them too agressive, they are quiet on the road and dont clog in mud like the BFGs do.
It will be interesting to see how the 80,000 klm guarantee stand up tho, I reckon I will be lucky to get 60k. I would rather have tyres that work well and wear than one that last forever and dosen't do the job
Cheers Rob
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Reply By: Fred - Sunday, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:00

Sunday, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:00
The 80,000 klm guarantee for Coopers is conditional on "inspection" ($$$) by the authorised dealer every 10,000 km. Miss one and your guarantee is likely to be declared void if you try to claim.
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Follow Up By: Grant - Sunday, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:00

Sunday, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:00
And only if you drive primarily in the metro areas. In the country on dirt roads where we live the guarantee is a bit "airy-fairy". Can't get a definitive answer on what K's the Coopers are good for; 80,60? I'm still going to give them a go coz they look to offer great traction and steering on our dirt roads.
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Reply By: Patrick - Sunday, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:00

Sunday, Nov 25, 2001 at 01:00
Peter: why are you thinking of getting a wider tyre ? Heve you really thought this through ? Ihave a cruiser and cannot see why you are considering a wider tyre.. What problems have you found with your Hankook's ??

Patrick
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Reply By: Rob P - Monday, Nov 26, 2001 at 01:00

Monday, Nov 26, 2001 at 01:00
Peter,

If you going for a tyre that wide (285), then I you will definately have some clearance issues on the front,
the Prado has very little clearance between the tyre and the suspension (can't fit chains on the front
wheels even with 265's). plus you will get the front tyres rubbing the guards when on full lock. I definately
would not go for 285's, stick to the standard 265's. Also if you have an automatic and you go for the taller
75 tyres, you will lose some low range and engine breaking will not be as good.... i.e if you do steep
decents your low range 1st will feel like it's running away, then you will have to use more brakes. I'm
not sure if this is an issue with manual Prado's, but this is what I found with my auto. Hope this helps
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Reply By: Phil Owen - Wednesday, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:00

Wednesday, Nov 28, 2001 at 01:00
I have just completed a 20k trip around oz Tanami,Kimberly,Gulf,Cape York via OTL in a heavy 100series we have 3kids .We were running BFG A/T`s. We put a rock thru the wall of one on the Tanami ,probably as we were running too high a tyre pressure & had one puncture, that was it. The Tyre dealer in Kunnanurra said that he sells mostly BFG`s and does not recomend Coopers, BFG`s have a 3 ply wall , Coopers 2 ply wall. His reasoning was that simple. However the tread on the BFG`s do get chopped up on rough roads. I havent had a problem with grip in the wet , we didnt get any rain on our trip. I also had BFG`s on my previous Pajero we crossed the Simpson we lost one but that was all, again we were carrying some weight 3 kids & all the gear.
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Reply By: Steve Y - Wednesday, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:00

Wednesday, Dec 05, 2001 at 01:00
I have a set of BFG AT on an NM Pajero. We do use it for real 4DW and Traveled for 3 weeks from Syd to Cania Gorge via Rainbow Beach, Spicers gap. All this with a 3 month old and mud and beach and road, The BFG went well and have not shown any signs of falling apart. We do a lot of mud work down the back of Gundagai/Tumit/Kosciuszko and they hang on well. Also like the idea of 3 layered side wall
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Reply By: waynepd - Sunday, Dec 09, 2001 at 01:00

Sunday, Dec 09, 2001 at 01:00
another point to consider is that if you need a replacement tyre in the outback you would be more than likely have trouble finding a 285 tyre. most dealers carry 265's and would have to get one in for you. this would come at an extra cost. i have just bought a set of cooper s/t 265/75/16 for my patrol and they look wide enough the 285's look too wide imho they look silly on a large car like the patrol let alone a prado. unless you are competing in 4wd comps i would save my money.
jus my opinion
cheers
waynepd
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