aeiou's thread and a show on ABC2 got me thinking

Submitted: Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 18:18
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I saw the end of a program on ABC2 the other night that was looking at the yanks addiction to their SUVs. this is something that I feel that I also have as now I am on my 3rd 4x4, a hilux, 8o series and now a 3lt Patrol. any way they where talking about the cost of fuel and the fuel ecomony that is gaained from these type of cars.
One thing that I was a bit supprised at was that Ford had a hybrid Escape in the US that was geting some thing like 50 miles to the gallon , this got me thinking would I buy a hybrid 4x4?

As the coggs crunched and the wirred I relised trips such as the big lap or that more remote trip would become more achiveable as if we where able to get 50km to the litre by generation power for batteries for an electric moter just think how offen we would be off on a trip.

I suppose then we would not be looking at putting in a larger sub tank but accually removing the main tank to use the space for some type of power cell, battery thingy and the my 35lt sub tank could take me 1750km, thats almost from Perth to Adilade or Broome on $53 worth of fuel

Also relised that if we did have batteries for this we could get rid of the need for duel batteries and be able to run fridges ect just from the reserves in the cars batteries and there would be no more warm beer.

well after some contempaltion the answer is yes, I would buy a hybrid 4x4 if it was able to delver the same performace.

How about You?
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Reply By: Member - BIGDOG G (WA) - Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 18:25

Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 18:25
Could I load it up with 2 ton of gear and still pull my 22ft offroad van? ?

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Follow Up By: Steve - Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 18:57

Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 18:57
priorities, as usual ain't it?

Do you want to save fuel or take your washing machine, airconditioner, hair dryer, di Longhi coffee maker etc etc
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Reply By: Member - David P (VIC) - Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 19:07

Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 19:07
Hybrids only make sense around town from what I have seen. Constant stop/start driving otherwise you are back to your petrol/diesel which to make the hybrid make economic sense has to be a small engine ..not much use in the outback.....silverback
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Reply By: Member - Mike DID - Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 20:01

Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 20:01
If you drive the expensive Toyota Prius between Sydney and Canberra it will exactly as much fuel as any other vehicle of the same weight/size/shape.

The battery is useless on this type of trip - the petrol engine has to run the whole time.

The claims for hybrid vehicles are made by marketers trting to sell their vehicles - the claims are based on very specific driving scenarios.
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 17:56

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 17:56
And studies have shown that to be "green " as in the hybrids available now as in Toyota and Honda the energy used in construction and eventual destruction/ recycling is 70% more for the life span of the vehicle over a conventional petrol /diesel /gas powered vehicle , so much for helping the environment !!
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 21:28

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 21:28
I had similar thoughts about a self generating solar/power supply for a 4WD of the future, i think it will be a long way into the future because the consumer quality technology isn't here yet.

How do you develop the power NM's to pull a van, horse float or large boat?

The cost of the batteries to replace is prohibitive from what i remember reading somewhere. It's almost cheaper to buy a new car.

The environmental impact of producing the batteries is not real good either. Not sure about recycling.

Lots of questions not many answers yet.
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Reply By: Member - kevin Y (SA) - Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 20:09

Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 20:09
at the moment ---dream on
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Reply By: Member - andrew B (Kununurra) - Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 21:33

Friday, Mar 14, 2008 at 21:33
Sorry about the "I heard somewhere" cliche, but I did read somewhere that if you were to do 500,000km in a Prius or a Hummer, you'd have about the same effect on the environment, due to the environmental cost of producing 3 priuss' (need help with the plural!) to the one hummer, and the emissions produced to come up with teh batteries etc the prius uses. Could be BS, but the whold hybrid thin seems a bit of a wank to me, although I wish braking energy could be saved for accelerating later!

Cheers Andrew
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Follow Up By: Louie the fly - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 15:36

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 15:36

production model hybrids are still in their infancy in many ways. in 25 years it might be a different story, particularly if governments start to get behind their development 100%.
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 17:45

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 17:45
What beer have u been drinking ? your maths is way way out , ,, your 35lt subtank = 7.7 gallons and at 50 miles to the gallon you get 385 miles = 616 klm ,, nowhere near 1750klm ,, sober up ole son ,,, lol.
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