Triton VS Big Red

Submitted: Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 09:02
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I was wondering if anyone taken a Triton (GLX 3.2 turbo diesel) up Big Red? If you have, how did it go (with extra weight of camping gear etc)? I would be interested hear about any other experiences with the Triton across the Simpson.

Many thanks

Dez
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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 09:37

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 09:37
Dez,

The vehicle can do it.

Can the driver do it?

Will big Red allow you to do it?

The vehicle is capable of crossing the Simpson Desert with all the preparation required to do a safe crossing.
Lower tyre pressure
Enough fuel
Sand flag
UHF radio on scan
Desert Park Pass
Maps and or GPS
Another vehicle

As a driver you should be able to drive on sand. High range 4wd and keep the vehicle moving. Most of the crossing will be in 1st/ 2nd/ and on some parts 3rd.
Depending on the sand you might have to crest the dune in first gear, but don't go too fast. The last thing you want is to get air as you go over the top.

Only one one occasion I have not been able to drive Big Red from the west. October 2006 the wind was coming from the East and had blown the sand into a vertical wall at the top of Big Red. No vehicle was going to drive Big Red that day.

On all other crossings I have not had any trouble getting vehicles over Big Red.

Wayne
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Reply By: T-Ribby - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:09

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:09
Dez last year I watched a group of tag-alongs practicing on BR before the crossing. There was a mix of 4WD's, wagons and utes, all loaded. The leader went up first, smoothly and quietly, probably in low range 2nd. I asked about tyres pressures and they had set theirs at 16psi.
Everyone got up the top and did several circuits.
The practical went on all morning which showed the thorough & professional preparation of the tour. I was impressed.
cheers
T.R.
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Reply By: Holden4th - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:44

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 10:44
The engine in the Triton is the same as the 05 Paj - which I've got.

I went up a very soft Big Red in 06, fully loaded with two passengers in 2nd gear 4HLC with nary a worry so the Triton will go up just as easily. My tyre pressures were 22 psi (what's with 16?).

The only caveat I would have is any possible lightness in the tail of the ute but you should be able to control this with the correct disposition of weight.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 18:18

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 18:18
"(what's with 16psi?)."
16 to 18 psi is what those in the know let their tyres down to in order to make it both easier on the car & the track. Believe it or not there is no prize for the person that cross's the desert with the highest pressure although at times one would be forgiven for thinking so :-)
Cheers Craig...........
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Follow Up By: Holden4th - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 18:23

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 18:23
I can't really see the difference. My problem with 16 psi is the chance of rolling the tyre off the rim. Yes, I know that there are problems with people who try to drive across the Simpson with tyres inflated to over 32 psi but seriously, I've got my tyres very low as it is, the footprint is a hell of a lot longer and I don't see that even at 22psi I'm really going to cause any damage.
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 18:43

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 18:43
there is very little difference between 22 and 38psi .
In my experience noticible improvements to flotation only really start at about 18psi.
Having said that on a long trip like the simpsons i might try higher pressures as tyres arnt made to run long periods at under inflation
would deprnd on conditions. end of the day making the trip is more important than tyre longevity.
Ive only run one tyre off the rim and it was prob more to do with the fact unknown to me it had a tube - i was running under 10psi never had a problem otherwise at 16psi you would have to drive like an idiot to get it off the rim
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 18:59

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 18:59
If anyone rolls a tyre off the rim with 16 psi on sand they are simply driving faster than they need & have never seen anyone do so in 9 crossings. Sand conditions in the Simpson will often allow crossings at 22 psi and have heard of some doing it at 30 but at times & on some routes one would need far less.
Cheers Craig.........
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Follow Up By: Krakka - Sunday, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:46

Sunday, Mar 16, 2008 at 10:46
Had my tyres down as low as 8psi up Big Red on split rims 5yrs ago, didn't roll them off the rims. You have to do what the conditions require you to do. Tried 20, 16, 12, finally at 8 we got over.
Cheers
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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:26

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 12:26
What!!!!!!
ROFLMAO

A Triton..up Big Red!....Hahahahahahaha!!
You wouldnt get one up the kerb would ya!






Sorry...
Seriously though. Why not? You know your car better than anyone else. Just drive it within its capability.
Ive got a few mates who have played in the Simpson quite a few times.
Two of them drive Tritons, they've never had a trouble except the usual (tyres and things).
I reckon cause of the wheel size you might have to use momentum over traction in a lot of places but they seem to have enough guts to get up momentum...just floor it!

Cheers
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Reply By: greybeard - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 14:59

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 14:59
i took a 1600cc subaru with std road tyres up big red a couple of years ago subaru on big red
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Reply By: Gronk - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 16:27

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 16:27
Theres always talk about big red ??

Which track ? The one straight up the middle ? Or the chicken track to the right or the harder one to the left ??

Coming from the west of course ..

The day I was there, no one got up the harder track to the left......some had 6 goes...too soft.....too corrugated to get a fast enough run up....but was fun all the same ..
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Follow Up By: howesy - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 17:56

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 17:56
The day I was there I had to go crazy at the chicken run and still booged down just before cresting, only about 3 cars the whole day made it. We went so hard that at one point at the bottom in the rough bit the car bounced so hard we both flew up off the seat my hand knocked the wipers on and the dash mat was set free. They gave us a cheer reckoned it was the best lux run they saw all day. (2.8 DTS turbo 9lbs max boost)
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Reply By: Kiwi & "Mahindra" - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 17:54

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 17:54
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the subie got up after about 8 goes....just take it easy and get tyre pressure tight from the beginning...!!

Have fun!
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Reply By: Member -Signman - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 19:06

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 19:06
One of those l'il Suzuki CarryBoy ute thingos has got over in one attempt..and that was 2WD






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Reply By: westozal - Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 23:09

Saturday, Mar 15, 2008 at 23:09
Hello,
If your interested in Tritons have a look at www.newtriton.net.
Regards Alan.
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2008 at 00:41

Sunday, Mar 16, 2008 at 00:41
Doesn't really matter what vehicle,
preparation (tyre pressure), and power willl go along way.
Here is me FAILING, The combination of weight, tyre pressure at 25 PSI, and not enough power.
Shane
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2008 at 00:43

Sunday, Mar 16, 2008 at 00:43
Oh yeah! look down the left to the VIDEO box
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Follow Up By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Sunday, Mar 16, 2008 at 00:46

Sunday, Mar 16, 2008 at 00:46
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This is a photo of a photo of a valiant on top of big red.
This photo is hanging on the wall of the Birdsville pub.
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