Towing with the Pajero
Submitted: Friday, Mar 21, 2008 at 22:30
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Stevie 90
G'day, long time reader, first time writer
We recently purchased a pre-loved Pajero Exceed 04 petrol. Love the comfort and extras that you get with this model !!! but what I hadn't experienced before was the 5 speed auto gear box.
I'm sure this has been done to death, but please for my benefit!!!
We have towed our Jayco Swan camper van on numerous occasions without issue but our recent first trip with the new Pajero had me thinking.
Please excuse my ignorance but should I be towing my van in 4th or drive (5th). I sit on about 95 - 100k's and how much of an effect will this have on the fuel consumption and mechanical running gear of the vehicle between the two gears.
I anticipate the overall weight will be about 1300 kg
We (wife & 2 kids) are heading off to
Darwin from
Perth (and return) over 8 - 9 weeks period and any advice you might have would be greatly appreciated.
Regards
Reply By: Go-N-Grey (WA) - Friday, Mar 21, 2008 at 23:36
Friday, Mar 21, 2008 at 23:36
I have towed a Jayco Swan behind a 2.5 ltr 1990 turbo diesel Pajero to Kunnunara and back (twice) via the
Gibb River Road, no problems at all.
We have also towed a 16'6 poptop van behind the same vehicle for many thousands of km including
Sydney and back.
On one trip we were accompanied by friends with a V6 petrol 1990 Manual Pajero with a van the same size to the
Pilbara and back. Surprisinglyly the fuel consumption was identical.
With the exception of the A/T transmission you should have no problems at all, its a matter of personal preference, and I wouldn't worry about it.
I currently have a V8 Auto LC and tow a 22' 2.8 tonne van, but I found it happiest in 4th gear with the torque converter locked up.
I drove to
Broome from
Perth in "D" and back to
Perth in "4." No difference in fuel consumption, but I sure the A/T was a lot cooler on the return trip, but have no way of knowing.
The cruise control works a lot better when the tq is locked up which it seems to do easier in "4".
I rarely exceed 90 km hour. At 100km hour the fuel consumption is astronomical (30ltrs+/100km) and the TQ never locks up.
Dont know how this translates to the auto Pajjy, but I expect it would have a TQ lockup also.
At one time when I was towing with the Pajero, someone said never to in 5th. I did 170,000k towing in 5th with no problems and still have it.
Cheers
Phil
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Follow Up By: Stevie 90 - Friday, Mar 21, 2008 at 23:50
Friday, Mar 21, 2008 at 23:50
Thanks Phil some good advice from experience goes a long way !!
Cheers
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Follow Up By: Davo_60 - Saturday, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:55
Saturday, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:55
G'Day,
I have a and old 60 series with a A440 trans with modified valve body giving lockup on 3rd and 4th. I also have a temp gauge fitted. The difference in temp with the transmission locked up is amazing. Locked in 3rd or 4th is sits on 80 to 90 degrees max but shoots up over 100 fairly quick when unlocked and working hard. This supports your theory Phil of having cooler temps on the return trip.
Cheers,
Dave
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Reply By: Member - Alastair D (NSW) - Saturday, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:30
Saturday, Mar 22, 2008 at 09:30
My previous 4wd was an NJ Pajero auto and it towed many things. As has been suggested above letting the auto decide is generally the best and locking out overdrive when the box is shifting too much typically in hilly country.
The key thing is to make sure you have an ear for when the torque converter is locked. When locked the transmission is in its most efficient mode and produces less heat which is the most important thing for a long auto life.
I now have a LC100 TD4.2 auto which pulls like a train but I still think the Pajero had a better transmission system. It certainly had a better LSD but that is another story.
Remember to occassionally
check the auto trans dipstick. The fluid should be a nice red colour, any trend towards
orange or brown is a
sign of overheating. The A/T temp warning light on my NJ tended to come on early, which was a good thing and only did so when under a big load, hot day, hilly country and slack driver.
Enjoy your trip and don't sweat it, the Paj will do it
well.
cheers
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