Refilling Gas Bottles

Submitted: Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:29
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Hi All,
can anyone suggest which is the best way to go as far as refilling gas bottles goes as we travel around Oz. The 'swap and go' type setup looks good but we are worried as we venture outback these will not be available. I know we could simply refill a 'swap and go' bottle but would it be just as easy 'cheaper' to buy our own bottles and get them refilled as we find servos that can do this?
All suggestions welcome.
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Reply By: Notso - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:45

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:45
One way or the other it will cost you the first time you either buy a new cylinder or use a swap and go.

If you don't have a cylinder to swap the cost is fairly high.

Make sure if you buy cylinders that you get the ones designated for outdoor use. There are 4 different grades and grade 1 or 2 are the ones designated for outdoor use I think.

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Follow Up By: Redbac - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:52

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:52
Hey Notso,
I have never known that they are graded!
I am guessing that a bottle use for outdoor bbq's would be of the correct type?
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Follow Up By: Notso - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:01

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:01
They have the numbers stamped in a circle on the hand grip. Check with the gas mob about it. I think grade 1 or two are the ones to use but not absolutely sure and you would be best to get the right advice.
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Reply By: Member - Oldplodder (QLD) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:57

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 08:57
I have my own cylinder, and fill as I go.


But,
Check the date stamp on the cylinder. Cylinders only have a 10 year life, then need a safety check, which can cost up to as much as a new cylinder. If the cylinder has less than 1 to 2 years, thats when I go for a swap and go and update my cylinder. :o)
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Follow Up By: Redbac - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:26

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:26
The bottle that came with my van is the same age '20 years old' !!
It may have expired....just :)

Cheers John
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Reply By: Axel [ the real one ] - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:03

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:03
Swap+Go might be quick and easy but it is also the most expensive way to get your gas , for 1 thing the 9kg bottles are only filled to 8.5kg yet u pay a premium price for less gas. Best is to have at least 2 bottles that u refill as soon as possible when 1 is COMPLETLY empty.
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Follow Up By: Redbac - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:28

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:28
I was quoted $80 to buy a 9kg bottle and $35 to fill.
I started to choke !!

Cheers Axel
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Follow Up By: Axel [ the real one ] - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:36

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:36
$80 , no wonder u want to choke ,, 9kg bottle costs less than $50 from BCF and a fill is $19 at same , bottles might be made in China but they still have to pass Aust standards.
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Follow Up By: Member - Mike DID - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 14:46

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 14:46
. . . also try Aldi
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 22:38

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 22:38
Redbac

I have just managed to recover enough to answer your query.

$80 to buy an empty 9kg. H o l y chit man! where do you live.

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:10

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:10
Redbac,

Swap and go gas bottles are getting out there more and more.

I take two gas bottles with me when I go away. I have a two burner gas BBQ that is used every night and could be used for up to an hour with the customers on tour. This would be a lot more than a family would use on a daily basis and I find that the gas last well over 6 weeks.

Having two bottles I will use one bottle until it runs out. The next place that has gas I will swap or fill. I would need fuel before I need to fill the gas bottle.

I have also found that even caravan parks are going for swap and go. Filling a gas bottle is very time consuming and it is easy and cheaper for them to have the swap and go.

I have been doing this for a few years and have not run at of gas.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Redbac - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:24

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:24
Thanks for your advise Wayne.
I take it you have purchased two 'swap and go' bottles so that if you cannot refill you can just swap ay?
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:36

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:36
Redbac,

I had a bottle that was just about of date when swap and go first came in.
They got my old bottle and I got one of theirs. I did get another bottle through them and now have two. When I do swap the gas bottle they get a very empty bottle and I get maximum value for money.
I have there bottle for a few months so I don't have to worry about out of date bottles.

The bottles would have to be checked by swap and go before they refill them so I am sure that I am getting a safe bottle each time.

Wayne
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Follow Up By: Redbac - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:42

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:42
Will a servo fill a swap and go bottle if they do not have the whole system of swap and go type thing?
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Follow Up By: Wayne (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:49

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 09:49
Redbac,
I don't think a servo would worry about where the bottle comes from as long as it is in date.
Most servos have gone to swap and go now.
I wish I had come up with the idea.

Wayne
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Reply By: Member - Sheepie (NSW) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:15

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:15
Be aware that there are some bottles out there that can ONLY be used as a swap!
I know the Bunnings home delivery service has bottles like this - they can not be refilled at a servo (or at least that's what I have been told).

They can be swapped with the swap-n-go's, but no filling.

Don't know why this is, but it's something to be weary of.
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Follow Up By: Redbac - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:49

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:49
Defiantly, thanks for the heads up!!
I was looking at buying bottles from Bunnings for around $35 but I wonder if they are like the ones you are warning me about.
This is why I love this forum!!

Cheers Sheepie
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Reply By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:28

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:28
Redbac,

If you head down the swap-and-go path just make sure that the bottles will physically fit in your holder(s). Our KK had two 4kg bottle holders, but I discovered that most swap-and-go 4kg bottles were a different shape and would not sit properly in the holders.

For what it is worth, with two bottles I have never had difficulties getting them refilled and the second bottle ensures that you can run one empty (you pay for the capacity of the bottle regardless of how empty it is) and if you do have trouble getting a refill in one spot, you can hold off for a while until you can.

Cheers,

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Redbac - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:53

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:53
Yes I know what you mean. I fortunatly have a pretty standard shape holder on my little CT, however I will measure the circumference of my original bottle before I part with my pennies.

Cheers Matt.

Your picture looks great...is that on Frasier Island?
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:34

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:34
Redbac,

With mine it was the bracket at the base that was the problem, not the strap around it.

Photo at Cape Leveque.

Matt.
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Follow Up By: Pajman Pete (SA) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:01

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 13:01
Hi Matt,

Is Cape Leveque worth a visit? I have only seen it from the blue side.

Nice to see your new job lets you use the net during working hours! :o)

Cheers

Pete
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Follow Up By: Member - Matt M (ACT) - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 14:25

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 14:25
Pete,

It was fantastic, but a bit expensive as there is only one place to stay. Heaps of spots on the way up which are good as well. Like you, I had never seen the Kimberley from the 'brown' side until we did our trip there. Just blown away by the amount to see and do. I have lost count of the number of times I have been to Broome, but had never driven in before. A new experience and I discovered that there is more to Broome than the Roebuck Bay Hotel (fancy that!).

Work is mainly at home now so access to the internet not a problem. The joys of the private sector, they worry about getting the work done, not how I do it.

Sorry Redbac, bit of a thread hijack.

Cheers,

Matt.
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Reply By: Ozboc - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:50

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:50
I have 3 gas bottles - costs $14 each to fill ( 9 kg ) after 1 week on the caravan ( 1 weeks usage ) i usually swap them around for new ones --- the one of the caravan then goes to the bbq at home till its empty ......

In the caravan the fridge and stove use gas -- i have a cobb cooker which gets used the most , reducing the load on the Gas ...

this is how i cycle my gas bottles

Boc
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Follow Up By: Redbac - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:55

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 11:55
Thats alot of gas onboard Boc!
Also whats a Cobb Cooker?
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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:04

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 12:04
sorry should of been more clear --- as i dont go away for weeks at a time -- i have 3 gas bottles in total ---- the other 2 stay at home -- and i always take a full one away every other weekend - knowing that i get at least a full week and a half out of each full 9 kg bottle - when i get home i just take the one of the jayco and put it on the bbq to use till empty ( we BBQ a lot )

Cobb coker is like a small camp oven - runs on about 9 heat beads and cooks fantastic lamb roasts and such -- best investment to the cooking gear i have made yet

we eat better when we camp out than at home :)

Boc
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Follow Up By: Member - 'Lucy' - Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 22:42

Thursday, Mar 27, 2008 at 22:42
Where do you fill a 9kg for $14 may I ask.

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Follow Up By: Ozboc - Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 08:54

Friday, Mar 28, 2008 at 08:54
hi there , if your in western sydney - On camden valley way at leppington there are 2 petrol stations on the right when heading towards narrellan - its the second on the right where they refill a 9 kg for $14

Boc
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Reply By: Barry 2 - Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 00:11

Saturday, Mar 29, 2008 at 00:11
Hi Redback
All previous post are great info
This is my personnal experience with Swap and Go 9kg bottles !!
anything smaller you can have troubles getting a replacement.
1..All 9 kg bottles are not same size had trouble fitting to my camper trailer bracket in the past, older bottles different shape.
2. If you look close at the date stamps on bottles they can be many years old supposedly Re-checked ???? Resprayed and refreshed yes !!!
I had a bottle once that was 20 yrs old and restamped ??
3.Some outlets will not refill swap and Go bottles - not very handy when out bush !!!
4.In the past I have got round the refill problem by taking swap & go sticker off and painting bottle with a silver paint (Looks like any ordinary bottle) outlet that refused to fill swap and go bottle happily filled it next time go Figure ??
My conclusion is ... After years of experience ...
Swap and Go is Ok for your Home BBQ use when you can go to the same outlet but for camping/outback travels my preferrance is to buy a new bottle or two what ever size you need ( Rays Outdoors on sale @ 26%) and as mentioned previously have two when 1st runs out you have plenty of time to fill 2nd bottle. With no troubles of refilling out bush as long as the bottles are in date.
Sometimes trying to buy the cheapest is false economy !!
Just my experiences, good luck !!
Safe Travels
Barry
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