200 series starter motor

Yeeeeeeessssssssssssss

Michael, have you seen that series of photos of a TDV8 trayback crossing a flooded river in QLD?

It was more than a puddle.

And he just drove away after draining the cabin.

cheers

What a dick that guy is!! That was really on the edge of loosing the whole thing in the drink. The boat dragging it of the causeway, I wonder what problems he ended up with after the event if any. Michael.

All things considered, they are about 10 grand overpriced.., The petrols are not selling, a mate told me there are the same 4 petrols sitting in a Toyota yard for six weeks.. Michael

Well that proves it then.

Proves what??

That they are not selling.

Matt M, i think after the initial buyers who are desperate to buy a new Blandcruiser for different reasons, the sales will slow.. Price is stupid for the diesel. Prices will drop.. petrols are not selling except for the gold necklace set.. Michael

So do sales to the 'gold necklace set' not count?

Matt! A few key words on this site and you always get a bite!! If they can afford to fuel a petrol engine , good luck to them.. Michael

Peter,
That is a very broad assumption I have to say. I am retired and invested some funds to buy a good 4wd and caravan to go touring and am paying hard earned cash for my new LC200VX TTD...having been in a corporate position for many years, I doubt that many companies would allow such a vehicle. Maybe on a novated lease but then no doubt, the person is sacrificing salary to get it anyway. But in any case, just because you are spending a lot on a vehicle doesn't mean you don't give a hoot how much it costs to repair...pure folly my friend/s.

Don
True, but there are plenty of owner operated companies out there that do it, not much you can say when the 'owner/director' are one and the same. Yes I personally would be upset at the repair costs but what they cost to make originally and what they charge for spare parts are totally unrelated.
Look at some of the cheap $14k cars and then look at repair costs after even a minor accident, 1k for a front mudguard! no wonder so many are stolen! Take a visit to a wrecking yard where you can still wander around, amazing to see what is written off as beyond 'economical' repair.
On the 5 year front the Japs have had that system in their domestic market for many years.

Don, There are plenty of employees driving around in large 4x4 company vehicles, thats where most of the new vehicles come from as new vehicles. I guess it depends on the company and the value they put on their employees.

On an automatic ? :-))

They are ALL auto's in 200's too.
Look like a Kluger on the road, spose that's what they are in a way, a Kluger with low range.

NO manuals Peter?? On the complete range?? Michael

I vaguely remember reading somewhere that they were only available with an auto.
If you want a manual cruiser its a 70 series apparently.

Didn't even notice that it was only Auto, even though I drive a slush box 4X4 I did at least have a choice. Wonder what happens if the CPU gets damp and the DAT and every other elctronic part fails........Hmmmmmmm

Hi Blaze, Yeah I guessed that much. Would have been interested in your method of bump starting an auto :-))

I just loved the sound of that downhill control system.... reminded me of when I was a kid; the old Westinghouse washing machine that mum had...... what a terrible bloody noise!!!!!

Sorry, but after seeing that CD on the weekend, I've run up this morning and told the local toymota dealer to cancel my order for the 200 series....I've decided to stick with the 6.5 V8

Bill, you have my vote.

We looked at the other night and I done some clumsy maths. Buy a Nissan or a Pajero; fit a Chev, Lockers front and back, Full suspension Lift kit, drawers/cargo barrier, Roof rack, Bull bar, Winch, Spots, Fridge. Cost approx the same as the 20 series....

Oops typo, well maybe not:

Which vehicle would go the furthest and be the best drive then off road... ?????

Roachie,

I would have thought that the noise of the ABS operating was not a very valid reason for cancelling your order.
What else turned you off the 200? Why did you buy it in the first place?
I'm not having a go - I'm just interested in your comments.

Richo,
Sorry, I really should have put "TIC" beside my response. I have never had any intention of buying one of these new-age computers on wheels. It stems back a month or 2, when somebody else on here was extolling the virtues of these new cars and I jokingly said that I was going be placing an order myself.

However, on a serious note...... those who know me, know that I am a "tinkerer". That's a polite way of saying "mangler". I'm never happy with a stock truck and I refuse to pay the exorbitant cost for any accessory that I can make myself. Likewise, I do almost all of the electrical work on my own too. The reason for this is so that I will be better placed to fix (or at least diagnose) something that goes wrong when I'm remote. I've heard too many stories about blokes who have spent oodles of $$$ at ARB or TJM....they get a great looking truck, but when they're out in the never-never and something stops working, they have no idea what it could be cos they didn't fit it and don't know what should go where etc.

So, in the case of the 200 series, it really worries me that (as a basic example) it doesn't have a power socket in the rear cargo area and (if what the 2 blokes on the DVD said is correct) it's not even the sort of job that a bloke like me could/should tackle on his own. Apparently the electronics are so finiky that woe betide anybody who should be silly enough to start soldering-in any additional stuff..... you could fry some important chip etc.

Also, things like the Kinetic Suspension set-up..... did you see that mother of a car waddling through those large corrogations??? What a load of scrap!!! (in my opinion).

Sorry, but after watching that DVD, I cannot believe that anybody would even consider buying one of those cars IF they intend to do any hard miles. Great for a Toorak Taxi ... safe as hell in a collision with umpteen airbags (I presume) etc etc.

But out in the bush (what the 4x4 magazine normally refer to as "bushability".... a term I notice that they didn't use during the making of the DVD, strangely enough), I work on the KISS principle. My old fashioned 6.5 V8 is nowhere near even being in the ballpark of being as refined or quiet as that new 4.5 V8 in the 'yota, but I'd prefer to rely on it in the scrub anyday.

Horses for courses.....I'm not going to get into a debate; but by the same token, I believe I have the right to let my point of view be known and I certainly respect the view of others.

Roachie

Richo,

After typing all the above, I just checked your profile and notice that you already have a 200 series. Please don't take my rantings the wrong way..... the most important thing/s I said in my above repsonse was in the last paragraph..... You have outlayed your hard-earned dosh on the car of your choice and I wish you all the very best of motoring bliss with it. I'm sure it will serve you well.

Cheers mate

Roachie

Roachie,

Agree with you comments - especially about the fitting of aftermarket bits and pieces.
I have actually put 2 12 volt sockets in the back and they are running my fridges just fine. I also wired in spotties, dual battery system, UHF radio, brake controller, Anderson plug and had a local car radio installer put my sat nav in. All are working fine and I know where things go if I do get stuck in the bush.
I went out to Loveday on the weekend and even with the bull bar fitted, the front end certainly sits low and did 'plough' through quite a few times. Other than that it performed brilliantly and was better than my Prado in a lot of circumstances.
It works for me as I am not in to 'extreme' off roading and do a lot of touring. With 3 kids there is plenty of room etc etc - I have my reasons for vehicle choice and it works for me.
What does p*ss me off if other people who think that the 200 series has a lot of electronics and therefore should be taken off the market - they are usually jealous and are just ready to bring others down (tall poppy syndrome ring a bell????)

So there, we agree on some points and there are pros and cons with anything - we all do what works best for us and should encourage others to do the same

Cheers and maybe catch ya round SA sometime!

Richo!! Gee, you are sounding a but serious. Its just the old Ford Holden thing, Nissan V Toyota.. All good vehicles, everyone just having a go.. No one really cares who has what, Jealousy, i dont think so, we all buy the vehicle suitable to our budget and our needs. Some people have raised good point about the 200 series potential downfalls but we could find fault in many other brands and models also. We all hope your vehicle serves you well. Michael.

Well it is the Holden and Ford thing and also the glass half full and half empty. It just gets a bit lame when everyone tries to bring vehicles or people down. How about wondering why they did put it in there and the potential advantages?
And I'm not serious - just putting across the other point of view.