4 door Troopy ride and suspension flex?

Submitted: Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 03:15
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Gday, what do those new troopy's with the rear leaf springs ride like and what are they like with articulating over obstacles? They seem like great vehicles except for the rear leaves. Put coils on the rear of one of these Troopy's for the perfect 4wd. Toyota don't make a fourby with 4 springs anymore.

The new 120 series cruisers only have independent front end. The new Patrols still have live axle at the front with 4 coils but only have the piddly 3.0 diesel.

Anyone know if Toyota or Nissan plan on making a big 6 or 8 cylinder diesel fourby with dual live axles and 4 wheel coils again? Or are the 2006-7 models the end of an era?

Cheers

Barnesy
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:15

Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 08:15
Rumor is that the current Diesel V8 70 series is a stopgap model so Toy could meet the new Australian emission laws. Apparently, according to the rumor, there is a completely new 70 series range under development, due in Australia in 2009. (Local fleet buyer told me this, and is holding of replacing their 70 series fleet waiting for the rumored new model)

Hopefully that will include a decent live axle wagon to replace the old 105 series rather than the vdj76 with it's 1980's technology (except for the engine) and safety gear.
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Follow Up By: Michael ( Moss Vale NSW) - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:46

Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 10:46
I wish you had some reliable rumours about an all new Patrol with a new diesel donk, I'm desperate for one! MIchael LOL!!!
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 16:26

Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 16:26
Wouldn't it be great if Toyota took notice of the aftermarket chop industry in Australia and made a dual cab or extra cab with the current twin turbo diesel engine, auto box, flash interior and a tray on the back.

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Reply By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:16

Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 11:16
G'day Barnesy, I guess the new Troopies or that 4 door 76 thing
ride like any other Troopie as they all have rear leaves. The last hilux to have a leaf front was the 96 2.8 I think. Anyway I was pleased to get one for a sprayrig as the IFS wont take the
punishment. Get buckled & bent with subsequent tyre problems.
Not sure when the Cruiser trayback went IFS, probably about the same time. Rear leaves still best load carrying setup for traybacks
in my opinion, as load is better distributed to chassis & pitching
reduced. I believe the value of leaf sprung front end trucks is
on the way up as many find the durability of IFS not as good. under some applications...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 13:17

Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 13:17
Baz,
Traybacks are not IFS. They have coils like all the other rigid front 80 and 100series.

The coil front end 7* series ride better than the all leaf ones that were phased out in 1999. They also lengthened the rear leaf springs, to improve ride, and extended the chassis on the traytops by 200mm.
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 14:18

Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 14:18
G'day Plil, well you learn something every day. I thought if it wasnt a solid axle with leaves it was independant. You are quite right about the better coil ride, the trade off is they wont take the same battering without damage. cheers...oldbaz.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 19:01

Monday, Mar 31, 2008 at 19:01
Oldbaz,
Can you name some vehicles with a coil sprung, rigid axle front end that "won't take the same battering without damage" ??
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Follow Up By: Member - Oldbaz. NSW. - Wednesday, Apr 02, 2008 at 15:34

Wednesday, Apr 02, 2008 at 15:34
G'day Phil, I can only name one vehicle & unfortunately it is a LC
Trayback. The reason for that is that they make up 90% of light
4wd sprayrigs, as the others have many more problems in this application than do Toyotas. I know of 2 fellow contractors who have backtraded to leaf front jobs because of the continued
expense of front end repairs sustained from rocks, stumps etc.
The difficulty is restoring original alignments resulting in tracking & tyre wear issues.Suspension type may not be an issue in most 4WD applications but it certainly is in this case......oldbaz.
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