$60,000 for a TD V8 GQ Patrol?

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The other day I caught a quick glance at a 76 Series Landcruiser from the rear and for a few seconds thought it looked like a GQ Patrol, the base model without the flared guards. Then I got to thinking and thought if Nissan re-released the GQ Patrol with a new V8 turbo diesel the equal of Toyota's, would people be prepared to pay around $60,000 for it? The interior would be more 'modern' than the 76 and you get more space and coils all round. A far out thought I know but I'm still trying to figure out how Toyota can charge what they do for an old wagon with a (briliant) new motor.

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Mark.
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Reply By: Bonz (Vic) - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 20:49

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 20:49
Sadly the issue isnt what they charge but what (we) are prepared to pay
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Follow Up By: Member - Mark H (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 21:00

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 21:00
Yeah the big brass in Japan probably can't believe that we keep buying them whatever price they put on them. At least with fuel we don't have much of an option but when buying vehicles we do.

In a perfect (unreal) world if everyone refused to buy one when they released their 'new' wagon, we may be paying $30 to $40,000 for them, which is what I think the price range they should be in.

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Reply By: Zapper - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 21:04

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 21:04
what a great ute it would be!!! Still prefer my GQ to all the other 4wd utes I have driven
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Reply By: South - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 21:57

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 21:57
Every toyota is stupidly priced, the 4WDs are especially due to the resources sector. You won't find too many mines that don't have a toyota of some description.
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Follow Up By: Stephen M (NSW) - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 22:16

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 22:16
Cousin works over in WA and has informed me that the next orders for there new vehicles will be Nissans. Due to OH&s they are required to have vehicles with airbag and ABS which Toyota dont even offer as an option on the traybacks/utes. Big mistake I think on Toyota's behalf. I would imagine this will continue to be the issue at most mine sites etc untill Toyota make them with the options. Yes it will cost a fortune to design etc but I think eventually they will have to. Regards Steve M
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Reply By: westozal - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 21:58

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 21:58
Hi,
I absolutely agree....Even though I have owned a nice 80 series 4.5 ltr for the past 4 years I still prefered my previous GQ/Mav. The 80 has never felt as strong as the GQ to me.
To have a decent/great motor such as the 4.5 V8 Td with Nissan diffs etc would be 4wd nirvana as far as i'm concerned.
If you want to see a 4.5 td V8 in action have a look at the Kedron caravans latest DVD.
Dont sound like a massey- fergy/renault 3ltr tractor motor no siree. The V8 sounds the business.
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Reply By: Member - Barnesy - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 22:47

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 22:47
Does anyone have one of the new V8 cruiser engines I can put in my GQ? I think what this highlights Mark is how much Nissan need a big diesel engine to rival the Toyota one.

A full sized 4wd ute with a 3 litre diesel? Pretty crappy.

Barnesy

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Follow Up By: Member - Mark H (VIC) - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 23:16

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 23:16
Absolutely! I remember reading one of the 'news' section in a 4wd mag some years back when the GU was released and it made mention of upcoming 4.8Litre petrol AND diesel engines for the Patrol. As the GQ was similar with the 4.2Litre petrol and diesel engines it made sense. A 4.8Litre turbo diesel Patrol, probably 6 cylinder though but with common rail and other refinements...
Forget my original post about reintroducing the GQ, just drop a big new motor into the GU, still undercut Toyota by $20 odd grand and sales of the 76 would slow drastically I'd imagine.
Well it is nearly my bed/dream time!

Mark.
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Reply By: Member - paul M (SA) - Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 23:37

Thursday, Apr 10, 2008 at 23:37
B.H.P olympic dam in south australia has a order for a few 4.5 diesel landcruiser .
they are ordering more as they need them because they lock them in 4th gear low range .
so there is no need for A.B.S. or AIRBAG at that speed so i think they will sell well.
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Reply By: Member - Barnesy - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 13:16

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 13:16
Was in the Toyota dealership in Pt Hedland the other day when a manager from FMG was in there with a cruiser ute getting fixed.

The mechanic told him the front bearings on the cruiser were stuffed but..."the ute was 2 years old so we will keep it here for spares and you buy a new one".

So the manager said OK and signed the papers for a brand new $60 000 cruiser ute! Mark I know where Toyota get most of their sales from for utes, they don't care about much else I'm afraid.

By the way, never take your car to get fixed at this dealer, they do half arsed jobs and don't care. Nearly all of their business is from the mines who just buy a new ute if fixing an old one is too much hassle. Not many private buyers can do that though.

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Reply By: Trevor R (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 07:19

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 07:19
Speaking to a bloke from Cowra just before Easter and there has been two in that local region that have gone BANG at early k's (20 -30 thou). Toyota were very quick to remove the offending donk and replace with newie while they work out exactly what happened to old one. No more has been seen or heard from these donks?????????????? Hope they are not the new ZD30 LOL!!!

This farmer also said, the older 4.2 turbo had more go in it in third than the new one, all other gears were in favour of the tdv8 though.

Regards, Trevor.
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Follow Up By: Gone Bush (WA) - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:03

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 11:03
"This farmer also said, the older 4.2 turbo had more go in it in third than the new one, all other gears were in favour of the tdv8 though."



How can this be Trevor? It's the same gearbox with a more powerful motor. Third gear in my TDV8 trayback is just incredible.
With all due respect to your farmer friend I think he may have got it wrong.

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Follow Up By: Trevor R (QLD) - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 15:48

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 15:48
Thanks for clarifying GB, I know nothing of this rig (unlike you) and only relay what was said to me by this pretty happy owner. Not a mate of mine just someone I met. He had it loaded with one tonne of hay and a three tonne trailer, so it was earning it's keep for sure.......exactly where the tdv8 would eat all other comers for breakfast.

Still wonder what happened to these two early detonations...
Must hand it to Toyota (unlike Nissan) in their handling of the matter and customer care after the sale from what I hear regarding these two cases.

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Follow Up By: Member - John (Vic) - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 17:17

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 17:17
Sounds like someone in Cowra is telling bull$hit.

Been no reports of any issues with the TD V8 since release.
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