long range fuel tank

Submitted: Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:28
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looking at getting a long range tank to replace the sub tank in my 100 series. have pleanty of clearance so the bigger the better as she is a petrol gussling beast! can anone out there recomend a manufacturer? ARB do a 180+ litre tank, but I'm sure there is cheaper option out there!
Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how popular it remains!

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Reply By: Wayne (NSW) - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:15

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 12:15
evren,

Long Range Fuel Tanks

This link would be a good start.

Long range fuel tanks are not cheap, and sometimes buying a cheap one is more expensive in the long run.

Wayne
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Reply By: Mr Pointyhead - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 13:00

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 13:00
If you have a tow bar fitted than that can cause issues with different types of towbars being incompatible with different long range tanks. You need to check with the proposed supplier before you purchase.
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Reply By: Member - Scooby (WA) - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 13:15

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 13:15
Give K&N Fabrication in Canning Vale a ring. They make all types of tanks.
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Reply By: MEMBER - Darian (SA) - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 15:40

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 15:40
IMO, there is insurance in staying with a mainstream supplier - over the years here and elsewhere, reports have emerged of leaks that have not been attended to under warranty, plus tank makers who leave metal fragments in there that ruin fuel pumps and destroy holiday plans.
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Reply By: CJ - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 17:37

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 17:37
Mate,

Like you I went for a cheaper option. I won't say which one but I will say it was not a Long Ranger. This cheaper option cost me heaps. It cracked (not through impact, just by stress) halfway through the Canning Stock Route. It is not fun to call via Satphone to Port Headland to arrange a replacement tank, knowing that a trip you planned for for a year is gone, and not fun having your whole family there at risk in the desert, 1000km away from decent assistance. My advise is if you do it, do it well and $200 or $400 now may save your bacon later.

OT on the above, we went well prepared and in convoy. we made it out with daily patch repairs, and had to replace it with a tank that was freighted in to Halls Creek. Many $$, wished I done it properly to start with

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Follow Up By: SteveL - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 22:04

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 22:04
A break down on the CSR that requires a tow will cost you heaps.
Last year a guy was towed from Well 41 back to Halls Creek and it cost him $15,000.
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Follow Up By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 22:41

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 22:41
Steve,
That sounds like the people with electrical problems in the Disco in August. We kept hearing about them as we were down the lower half. They were stuck there for ages. From memory, the recovery vehicle from Halls Creek had his fair share of problems too. $15,000 is a lot of money.

There was a Pajero with a burnt out clutch down the bottom end a couple of weeks earlier, who just left it dumped, rather than get it retrieved.
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 01:09

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 01:09
Yeah, that's the one.I think they were stuck there for 15 days from memory.The first recovery effort failed and turned back as they couldn't get the truck over some of the dunes.They had a satphone and mechanic on-site, but they couldn't get it going as it was a problem with the engine management system.
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Reply By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 18:25

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 18:25
Gotta say that while it's nice to have a heap of fuel on board, the "biggest" tank is not always the best option. I have had a poor run with supposed "top quality" tanks. Similar experience on the Canning as posted above with a side trip to Port Hedland to fit a new one. The bigger the tank, the bigger the stresses with up to 150kgs of fuel slopping around. It's got to be well baffled. I currently have a long ranger rear tank in the GU and it failed on it's first outback run. As it was a year out of warranty, ARB didn't want to know about it. Their excuse "We don't make them, just badge them as our own and sell them". I'd previously had three tanks fail in my Navara over a 6 month period which had been made and fitted by a quality and top priced manufacturer. Mind you this manufacturer provided exemplary customer service that would lead me to recommend them again. ARB, no way. Go LRA or Brown Davis. If your heading into the rough stuff and have the ability to carry a few jerry cans of fuel, this is often a safer and cheaper option.

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Follow Up By: Leroy - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 22:22

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 22:22
It's funny how when someone has a bad run with a companies product they recommend another brand! lol

Well I had an LRA tank that failed in my Rodeo in Cape York. The local Mech in Weipa said the locals don't buy them only the city slickers who don't know they can't hack the rough roads.

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Follow Up By: Member - evren1 (WA) - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 22:58

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 22:58
so what do the locals use. did this mech in Weipa recomend a manufacturer.
seems a lot of after market tanks are causing nightmares yet car manufacturer tanks that come with the vehicle don't get too much mention. are they just as vunrable?
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:25

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:25
Ironically Leroy, my main driver in recommendation's is in fact the customer service factor. One of my recommendation's is for the company which produced the failed tanks for the Navarra. Never an issue with any of my complaints and in fact the Managing director flew to Alice Springs personally after the third had failed on the Gunbarrell to try and identify what the issue was, organised a custom tank for the vehicle and fitted it himself. Now you can't complain with that level of service. As for ARB, I got treated like something that had been dragged in on the bottom of my boots. I fixed their tank at my own expense and I'm sure it will be a lot stronger. This years trip will see. I'm of the opinion that it is often better to stick with standard and carry fuel in jerries if you can. Cheers. Mick.
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Reply By: TD100 - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 19:30

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 19:30
evren1,

i used the longranger in my 100 TD,kept the 96 main and replaced the sub with a 122ltr diesel and 55ltr water all in one,absolutely brilliant if you do a bit of touring.i personally would stick to the mainsream manufacturers (ie longranger)for example.too many horror stories with other "cheapies"cheers Paul
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Reply By: Member - Matt & Julie (VIC) - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 20:58

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 20:58
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Try 4wd systems 08-83690033 ask for Tom they are in Adelaide they deliver Australia wide I am fitting one tomorrow in a GQ
By the way Iam not affiliated with them in any way
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Reply By: GerryP - Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 21:28

Friday, Apr 11, 2008 at 21:28
I have a 100 series diesel with 185 litre Long Ranger fitted. So far no problems at all and have travelled some very corrugated tracks including the Anne Beadell and Connie Sue. Will be doing the Canning later this year so hopefully my good run will continue...
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Follow Up By: Member - Mick O (VIC) - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:27

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:27
Take some Araldite just in case. Cheers. Mick
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Reply By: Member - Phil G (SA) - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:08

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 08:08
There's no perfect aftermarket tank. With people I travel with, I've seen problems with probably all the major brands. If it were me, I'd go with Long Ranger (Stocked by ARB) - they seem to have fewer problems and sell a lot of tanks. Most problems seem to happen when you're miles from nowhere.
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Follow Up By: SteveL - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:09

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:09
I have 2 Long Rangers on my GQ.I have not had any problems with the main tank even though it has had a few impacts with rocks.However,the auxillary tank snapped the 2 rear retaining bolts on the road to Mitchell Falls.Not really the kind of place you wanted to stranded.Luckily I had 2 bolts which did the job and ,needless to say, I ran with that tank empty for the rest of the trip.
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Reply By: VH-GU4 - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:02

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 12:02
Ive seen LRA tanks being welded up at Wiluna after the CSR has cracked them in the welds. Any after market tank will have its problem and why put all your eggs in one basket??? NO Fuel = Go nowhere. I only carry additional fuel in jerry cans. If a 150+ tank splits you loose all your fuel. If the standard factory tank splits you still have the jerry cans.
I also adopt this principle with water. Dont get caught out. No one wants there trip to cost an additional $15,000.
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Follow Up By: Crackles - Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 13:49

Saturday, Apr 12, 2008 at 13:49
Tend to agree with you there. After LR tank failures in an early vehicle I always carry fuel (& water) in separate containers now. With the increase in fuel availability at many aboriginal communities the need to carry large amounts is not as common as in the past.
The cost too is pretty high for a tank that many in reality only need for just a few weeks over the life of the vehicle & could work out as much as $100 a day.
Of course for those choosing petrol the range on the remote trips like the Madigan may need both LR tanks & a dozen jerries :-)
Cheers Craig..............
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