Tyre pumps

Submitted: Monday, Apr 21, 2008 at 23:11
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Hi all,

we are considering getting a tyre pump. We have a small one working off the 12v accessory socket in the Santa Fe, but wanted a bigger machine that had a pressure gauge display.

Can't tell if to get similar style, running from the 12v socket, or do we need one which has the 2 crocodile attachments to the battery. What are benefits of the second option over the more standard ( and easier) 12v socket?

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ian and deborah
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Monday, Apr 21, 2008 at 23:27

Monday, Apr 21, 2008 at 23:27
Ian most round 12 volt sockets including lighter sockets as a rule of thumb don't like much more then 5 to 10 amps max (120w) being drawn through them.

A good real hi output compressor will draw about 30 amps on start up and about 20 to 25 amps when running some will draw a bit less and others a bit more.

They put alligator clips on them for easy of use with many vehicles and also ensures you connect straight to the battery, what I always suggest to our customers is fit a 50 amp Anderson plug in line.

The benefits of an Anderson plug over alligator clips are ease of connection, not being able to hook it up the wrong way and the Anderson plug gives a much better connection in high current applications.

Most people don't worry about pressure gauger being on the compressor as most would prefer to use a much more accurate hand held pressure gauge.

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Reply By: Member - Troll 81 (QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:13
You will get all sorts opinions on this but I have learned the hard way in buying a cheap super cheap jobbie years ago and yea they are perfect for pumping up the football but they take forever to pump up a 4x4 tyre or it will just fail. Buy yourself a good quality unit that’s backed by a good guarantee. I have had my ARB unit for ever and it’s still going strong, but I mainly use that for the air lockers but I do pump up the tyres with it as well after a beach trip or something. Make sure you get the ones with the crock clips or if you are going to hardwire the unit make sure you have good thick wiring the 12v socket ones are only good for pumping up the footy or the bicycle wheel.
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Reply By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:20
ian and deborah,

I agree with Richard. (almost)

An advantage the alligator clips have over a high current plug/socket connection is that you can use it on multiple vehicles.
For this reason, a compressor that is contained in a "toolbox" is a practical option.

I would recommend a quality compressor that will give you years of service but obviously they cost more.

ARB have a great product recently released that is hard to beat at present.

A built-in gauge is not an important issue as they are usually highly inaccurate. A better option is a digital tyre gauge which is easy to read and use and is available for around $20 from K-mart, etc.
You turn it on and it beaps when it has a reading, displays it, then switches itself off after a few minutes. Easy as.

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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:22

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 10:22
"beaps" is kind of like "beeps", just a slightly different sound:-))

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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 13:57

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 13:57
for $20, maybe it does beap....lol

I agree with the toolbox variety as i just went out and bought my second ARB version (last one was stolen), this time the newer one, and the price is great for the output and portability.

I just need to chuck an anderson plug on it, and work out a way to prevent the burnt finger issue, and i'm all happy.

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 17:39

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 17:39
you mean it bleep s
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Follow Up By: Member - Duncs - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 18:40

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 18:40
Andrew,

Gloves!
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 18:46

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 18:46
LOL, that sounds familiar. :-)

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 20:45

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 20:45
ahhh Gloves... I remember when we had to wear chickens cause we couldnt afford gloves
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Follow Up By: pop2jocem - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 22:14

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 22:14
CHICKENS, you was looky. We had to wear lizards, couldnt afford chickens and then we had to leave them in sun to warm up :-)))
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Reply By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:52

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 12:52
Yeap I agree with Bill who sort of agreed with me........what didn't you agree to in my post Bill.

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 17:41

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 17:41
he reckons that the alligator clips have their place but but but didnt you say connect an anderson plug in-line? so you can alligator plug it OR use the ando at the back of the 4b.
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Follow Up By: Member - Olcoolone (S.A) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 18:06

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 18:06
Yeah thats what I thought I said..then you have the best of both worlds.

Bill said much the same in his post as I did in mine and he didn't agree totally with what I said......SOOOOO does that mean he doesn't agree fully with his post?

Perhaps i should of went into more detail. LOL

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Reply By: Moose - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 13:34

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 13:34
G'day Ian
Forget about the cig lighter socket as others have said. The top quality ones are very expensive so it depends on how much use you think it'll get, how far off the beaten track you're going etc etc. If you can afford the $400 or so then go ahead - you'll have a bloody good unit that'll outlast the vehicle. The ARB portable is a very impressive unit.
Otherwise consider going to your local Don Kyatt (Sunshine State 4WD up here in Qld) and grab one of their twin piston jobs. It too will do the job easily and should last quite well. Only about the $130 mark. Nice and compact. Comes with plenty of hose and has a built in guage. Has battery clips. Comes in a carry bag. Whilst the guage isn't as accurate as the hand held it is consistently inaccurate so once you work out what the error is you can rely on just it. After all a pound here or there doesn't really matter:-)
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Reply By: iandeborah - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 16:51

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 16:51
Thanks everyone.

I will definitely go and look at the digital pressure gauge, and then further consider the options on those various pumps, taking into the accoount of getting to know the consistent inaccuraries... LOL

Cheers
ian and deborah
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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 17:45

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 17:45
I an I have a bushranger Max-Air and an ARB compressor too. I love the max air, its in a smaller bag and its faster than the ARB one, have had the ARB for 8 years and it hasn't missed a beat just a little slow for me. I have the digital gauge from k-mart and its great too!

Max Air is around $350 but should last you a long time.
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Follow Up By: Member - Andrew (QLD) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 18:58

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 18:58
Hey Bonz,

The NEW ARB one is better again....even faster than the Max Air one and at the same price or cheaper. :-)

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Follow Up By: Bonz (Vic) - Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 20:47

Tuesday, Apr 22, 2008 at 20:47
hmmm I am not so sure Andrew, a locals got one and is disappointed at its speed. But that said I would have one in a flash, bit I do love the Max-Air
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