Should I get rid of my 80 series for a Hi Lux

Submitted: Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 13:45
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I've had my 1996 model petrol 80 series since new. Serviced every 5000 Klms,never off road or on the beach but has towed a 21 ft van for 17000 Klms of it's current 250000Ks.

Fearing the Cruiser is getting long in the tooth I have considered a new Hi Lux Workmate with the intention of fitting a canopy on the tray for camping.

After a test drive I found that apart from having no Kls on the clock the Hi Lux is quite a step backwards.

So should I go new or keep the Cruiser??? If I were to keep the cruiser I woud fit it up with some draws, a bed and annex.

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Reply By: Hairy (NT) - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 14:11

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 14:11
Dont do it mate!!!!!!!
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Reply By: Willem - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 14:32

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 14:32
Your Cruiser is only run in now. Although you may be updating in years you will be taking a step backwards if you go for the new HiLux. Spend some dollars on your Cruiser to bring it up to your expectations and enjoy the ride.
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Reply By: gmac - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 16:38

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 16:38
I have a 06 hilux 4x4 diesel tray back fitted with a D.p. chip .I tow a new Nova semi off road van weighing 1970 kgs empty and stow about 400kgs of gear in the back of the ute.The diesel pulls the van with relative ease paricuarely through hills.I have owned 80 and 75 series and whist superior of road they dont pull as well.Obviously to replace your 80 series with something similar you wuold have to purchase a 200 which are now out of most peoples reach.Maybe a second hand turbo 100 series although they are also expensive.I have fitted a canopy dual batteries and 130 litre tank.If you are going to camp in the back you coulnt get any thing much better for the money and I can guarantee far better fuel economy.Just completed a trip from W.A. to N.S.W. and very happy with the Hi Lux. Hope this helps.
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Reply By: westozal - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:18

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:18
I've just sold my own immaculate pet/gas auto 1996 GXL 80 series to a mate as I to wanted to update.
Worst thing I ever did i'm beginning to think, very hard to find anything in its category at a reasonable price to replace my 80 for something similar.
So my advice is unless you can go for a replacement of what you had like for like your going to be sorely dissappointed.That will lead to a feeling of dissatisfaction with whatever you buy if your perception is that you have stepped backwards.
You have already admitted as much in your thread.
Good luck
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Reply By: Member - AJB (VIC) - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:49

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:49
Keep the 80 Series. Simple, comfortable, tough, cheap (as you allready own it) and you know its history. What you'll spend on it to bring it "up to scratch" will be about the same as the "dealer delivery" charges on the Hilux!!!
Why pay more for basically the same/slightly better/slightly worse (circle your response) vehicle. It only has to get you from A to B and back.
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Reply By: pop2jocem - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:49

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 18:49
Hi Cruiser

I guess I,m probably in a similar situation in as much as my old diesel Cruiser is starting to show its age. Do I spend a heap of cash to upgrade to?????? or spend a lot less to repair. Apart from the grunt to tow and the usually higher fuel cost that goes with it I am concerned with the ability of a lighter but possibly more frugal vehicle to "handle" the weight of a van in an emergency situation. Personally I am favouring the repair and keep option.

Cheers Pop
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Reply By: Member - Shane D (QLD) - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:01

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:01
If it's doing everything you ask and has no real problems (apart from fuel economy) why get rid of it.
There are heaps of exchange/recon items out there if you are worried about significant component failure that will cost heaps less than the Hilux, and proberbly get you another 250k.
If you felt it's a backward step after one test drive, why continue considering
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Reply By: vuduguru - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:02

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:02
Keep the Cruiser! Unless you have an fat inheritance and no brains.
Not that there's anything wrong with a hilux. Dream about the fruit. You will never have a problem camping with a cruiser.
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Follow Up By: vuduguru - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:12

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:12
Oh and with regard to the economy thing. Look at it like this. (I have a petrol V8100) Lease cost 1000 $ a month over 4 years with a 40% residual. 110K in 5 years. fuel currently costs me 200 per 3 weeks (was80 to fill in '03) ie $70 a week $280 per month.....cheeeeep!
Insurance $1000 pa accessories $1000 each (roughly).
By the way I paid it out the $28K for 2 years at 1200 pa. Next March I own it! and I reckon I've got another 5 years.
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Reply By: Mike Harding - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:29

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 20:29
You have a large 4WD which you don't take off road. It is expensive to service and expensive to run. It seems you only own the vehicle in order to tow a caravan - which you have done for 6.8% of it's 12 year life.

I suggest you sell the Landcruiser and buy a Commodore or similar which will be quite capable of towing a 21' caravan on sealed roads. Smaller vehicles that that do it all the time in Europe - and they have some big hills over there :)

Mike Harding
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Follow Up By: bbuzz - Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 19:32

Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 19:32
A Commodore? 21 foot van? Get real. You need leaf springs for a start and a real chassis would be number one on my list. If you have to change anything get a Ford Territory - six speed box etc. Air bags on the springs, LPG, AWD. You can go nearly everywhere you want and its comportable. OR change the van! How much room do two people need.? I get by on a 14' camper style. Live in it for weeks at a time.
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Follow Up By: Mike Harding - Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 19:56

Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 19:56
I towed a twin axle 24' van (shower, toilet and central heating) across the Alps with a family of four using a 2.6lt Rover saloon car - monocoque construction and gas shockers on the rear.

Take a trip down the Autoroute de Soleil in August and see who's towing what with what - Oz is a bit confused on the issue of towing caravans.

Mike Harding
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Reply By: Cruiser 2091 - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:04

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:04
Thanks to everyone who has replied to my post. It's good to get your opinions and it was heartening that no one said my Cruiser was at or past it's normal life expectancy.
It was pointed out to me that I really don't need a 4WD and I knew that when I brought this one, however I've had Cruisers since 1975 and it was not possible to change the habit.
I don't consider Cruisers to be as expensive to maintain as the average family car.Other than the normal things like lubricants, plugs, brake pads etc the only repairs mine has needed has been a new radiator and reconditioning of the starter motor.
Once again thanks for the input, you have confirmed my thoughts that I should keep it. Cruiser.
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Follow Up By: madfisher - Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:52

Friday, Apr 25, 2008 at 21:52
The drive train on 8os are usually good for at lest 400000 to 500000ks. The bodies on most toyotas are still tight at 200000ks.
Cheers Pete
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Follow Up By: Waynepd (NSW) - Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 08:39

Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 08:39
The big Diesels are just getting warmed up at 250,000 k's my '98 Nissan is 337,000 k's old and still chugging along happily albeit with some minor overheating issues.
Your real decision is whether you need the 4wd to tow on highways or if a smaller cheaper-to-run 2wd is the smarter move. That is your call depending on your ability to afford it and/or your willingness to change.
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Reply By: Mudduck - Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 23:12

Saturday, Apr 26, 2008 at 23:12
My 80 series has 407000ks on it and is just run in.

Keep your 80.

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Reply By: racinrob - Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 15:14

Monday, Apr 28, 2008 at 15:14
Err, thanks for adding to my dilemma ! I have a '95 table top, turbo diesel Landcruiser with 250,000 on the clock on which I carry a one tonne slide on camper. Was thinking of upgrading to a diesel HiLux but with mostly negative comments here I'm now undecided......
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