Cape York & Tyres

Submitted: Friday, May 02, 2008 at 08:36
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What reputation do the roads on the Cape hold regarding tyres? The Oodnadatta, Gibb RR, Tanami etc all have reputations as tyre eaters especially stones chewing up sidewalls, but I've not come up to pace on the OTT and Bypass.

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Reply By: Member -Signman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:01

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:01
Had no probs. travelling via the OTL to Cape York with Hercules Terra Trac tyres. Fully loaded (heavy) Troopy. No tyre issues and at about $150 each- no complaints.
White lettering fitted to the inside !!!

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Follow Up By: Vivid Adventures - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:08

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:08
Does the white lettering on the inside inhibit theft?
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:20

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:20
No- not really the theft angle..

I have applied for a Federal Government Grant to do research & a survey as to the vulnerability of tyres, with the wanky White lettering fitted to the inside or the outside.
Casual results at this stage are in, and have been carefully indexed & analysed, statstics show that 80% of tyre failures have the lettering fitted to the outside.
This is in line with data showing that only 20% of tyres fitted, have the lettering facing to the inside.
I have had no response from the Government to date- however, I am sure it will be a major item in the Budget next week.




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Follow Up By: Vivid Adventures - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:34

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:34
pretty casual results it seems.

The old 80:20 rule. 20% of the tyres get 80% of the failures.

The survey I did says that there is a causal connection between drivers and tyre failures.

I think you need to speak to the Statistician not the Treasurer ;-)
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:38

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:38
Yes- only casual results at this stage.
Part of the Grant will be spent on purchasing a 'tyre failureometer' to establish more definite results.....


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Follow Up By: Mike - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:44

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:44
In my extensive investigations, I have deduced the following facts;

1; 99.9% of tyre failures lead to the carrier vehicle being stationary at an inoppotune time.

2; 87.6% of tyre failures lead to the use of an obsene expletive.

3; 100% of tyre failures lead to the expending of valuable travel funds.

4; 98.7% of tyre failures are unplanned.

Happy trails, Mike.
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:46

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 09:46
I've just checked with the supplier, and I may have to settle for the American version.
The 'tire failureometer' is left hand drive and may not be compatible with Australain conditions.



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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 10:06

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 10:06
Signman,

Your conclusions are all wrong mate.

80% of tyre failures when white lettering is facing outwards, is because 80% of the users are wankers, choosing to have the white lettering showing:-)

I'm one of the 20% who insisted the white lettering faced inwards. Still got a blowout on the Borefield Track:-(

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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 10:19

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 10:19
Hey Bill,
My conclusions thus far have not eliminated the possibility of a failure with the Wanky White Lettering to the inside.
There's nothing wrong with the tyre in your pic. A couple of plugs and a wall patch- good for another couple of ,000kms.







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Follow Up By: Gossy - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 19:29

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 19:29
that blown tyre looks very much like a road tyre and not a AT tyre. I use to live in Roxby Downs and I can safely say that it was only a matter of time before that tyre blew!
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Follow Up By: Member - Davoe (Yalgoo) - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 19:36

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 19:36
yep we did a few on that road in an old panel van a few years back
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Follow Up By: TD100 - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 19:46

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 19:46
also helps when asking dealer to put writing inside,pick car up and its on the outside!
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Follow Up By: Member - Kiwi Kia - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 07:43

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 07:43
Hey Mike, Not sure that I like your stats !

4; 98.7% of tyre failures are unplanned.


Are you inferring that the other 1.3% of failures are planned ?


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Follow Up By: KiwiAngler - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 07:54

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 07:54
I too have been reseraching this phenomenon - pity we didnt all collaborate

I agree with the results published so far - namely:

1; 99.9% of tyre failures lead to the carrier vehicle being stationary at an inoppotune time.

2; 87.6% of tyre failures lead to the use of an obsene expletive.

3; 100% of tyre failures lead to the expending of valuable travel funds.

4; 98.7% of tyre failures are unplanned

and can add - vased on extensive researcg both anecdotal and actual that: -

5: 100% of all flat tyres are only flat at the bottom.

Now if we can only find a way to protect the bottom part of a tyre we would never get a flat. Grant to discover same has been applied for :-)))))
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Follow Up By: Sand Man (SA) - Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 12:11

Sunday, May 04, 2008 at 12:11
Gossy,

That blown tyre was a Bridgestone Dueler 694 AT, had done about 65,000 k's.

I had planned to replace them after the trip anyway, so I wasn't too fussed. I was about 50 k's short of the bitumen heading towards Roxby.

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Reply By: Cape York Connections - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 11:36

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 11:36
Just about all tyres are good as long as they a good amount of tread on them, and correct tyre pressures are used.

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Reply By: Crackles - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:58

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 15:58
Don't you just hate it when you ask a serious question & get nothing but OT dribble ;-)
In general the Cape roads are far more sandy than the likes of the Oodnadatta track and as such tyre damage is far less likely. Still plenty of wash-aways, dips & potholes though to catch you out so I'd suggest an All Terrain type construction with better than 50% tread would be ideal. Mud tyres not required although can be beneficial if you go early or late in the season. If you have an extensive tyre repair kit a 2nd spare probably isn't required with the relatively short distances between civilization.
Cheers Craig............
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Follow Up By: Member -Signman - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 16:01

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 16:01
"Don't you just hate it when you ask a serious question & get nothing but OT dribble ;-)"
Yea mate- it Crackles me up..

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Follow Up By: Inland Sailor - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 16:32

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 16:32
Cheers Craig!!! I'll follow the discusion regarding the white lettering and mae my judgement accordingly.


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Reply By: warbo - Friday, May 02, 2008 at 21:01

Friday, May 02, 2008 at 21:01
if your tyres are 1/2 worn get new ones ,that way you can blame the tyre not yourself, if ya get a blowout!
ps.even saves the missus nagging a little.
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Follow Up By: davmac452 - Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 21:26

Saturday, May 03, 2008 at 21:26
old bushies advice,
dont travel long trips on "green" tyres. new tyres need to be 6 months old before the trip.
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